Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16525 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (14 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3420 times:
Actually, there's no rush to replace the MD-80 anyway. SAS only just retired their last DC-9-41 recently. The MD-80 fleet could easily soldier on for another 15 years.
Don't forget, the 4 largest US carriers were still flying the 722 in 2001. Indeed, AA, DL, NW still have sizeable fleets of the 722, a much older aircraft than the MD-80.
European flag carriers tend to be high-cost....well above their US counterparts. There are many reasons....one of which is the tendency to roll over their fleets too quickly, which greatly reduces ROI.
I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
KFRG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (14 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3412 times:
I have heard that the introductionary problems which SK had with the 736's have been overcome, although don't expect anymore 736 orders. I guess after so many years with MD, SK was not familiar with the Boeing's.
717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2022 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (14 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3397 times:
Somewhere I heard that the MD-80's and 90's will last for some time. Many of them are quiet young and the MD's doing good work on the Scandinavian network. They could be replaced on some high density european routes.
MDCjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 175 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (14 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3377 times:
All MD-80s are strong aircraft, and still have great potental ahead of them in the pax market. Most airlines are in no rush to retire them. McDonnell Douglas made very strudy planes. People seem to think that MD-80s are old, but actually quite a few of them were built in the '90s
Prebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 7142 posts, RR: 53
Reply 11, posted (14 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3309 times:
The last SAS DC-9 was finally retired on 7th January this year after more than 70,000 landings. But well, the DC-9 retirement may have dragged somewhat according to plans because of the introduction problems with the 737NG and Dash-8-Q400.
The MD-80s (and -90s) perform very well and are very popular among the pax. So I agree with Yyz717, I wouldn't expect any mass retirement on this side of 2010. Maybe the few MD-90s with the (in SAS fleet rather odd) V2500 engines will go earlier, should a good buyer show up. But the world market for good, used MD-90s sure isn't booming these days.
When the current SAS orders at Airbus have been delivered, and the 767s have been sold, then I guess that the purchacing department at SAS will be rather quiet for some years. There will be a few options at both A and B converted into orders, no more.
Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs