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When Will Sas Order The Replacement For Md80?  
User currently offlineLegolars From Denmark, joined Sep 2001, 89 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2406 times:

I've heard it will likely be airbusses 319+320+321's

or will they go for 737ng's

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User currently offlineBaec777 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1231 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2370 times:

SAS already has 737NG, they will go for more 737NG to replace their MD80s. I could be wrong..

baec


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2361 times:

They also have the 321.They arent too chuffed with the 736 ,not sure about the 73G and 738.Could easily go either way but Im reckoning theyll go with Airbus

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2333 times:

Actually, there's no rush to replace the MD-80 anyway. SAS only just retired their last DC-9-41 recently. The MD-80 fleet could easily soldier on for another 15 years.

Don't forget, the 4 largest US carriers were still flying the 722 in 2001. Indeed, AA, DL, NW still have sizeable fleets of the 722, a much older aircraft than the MD-80.

European flag carriers tend to be high-cost....well above their US counterparts. There are many reasons....one of which is the tendency to roll over their fleets too quickly, which greatly reduces ROI.

IMHO

Neil



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineKFRG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2325 times:

I have heard that the introductionary problems which SK had with the 736's have been overcome, although don't expect anymore 736 orders. I guess after so many years with MD, SK was not familiar with the Boeing's.

-Tom


User currently offline717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2310 times:

Somewhere I heard that the MD-80's and 90's will last for some time. Many of them are quiet young and the MD's doing good work on the Scandinavian network. They could be replaced on some high density european routes.
717fan


User currently offlineMDCjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 175 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2290 times:

All MD-80s are strong aircraft, and still have great potental ahead of them in the pax market. Most airlines are in no rush to retire them. McDonnell Douglas made very strudy planes. People seem to think that MD-80s are old, but actually quite a few of them were built in the '90s

User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2275 times:

I thought MD80s is being replaced progressively?

User currently offline717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2270 times:

The oldest MD-80's (ex-Swissair) are/will be replaced.

User currently offlineTransSwede From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2268 times:

I read somewhere (can't remember teh source) that SAS has put off retiring most of the MD-8X fleet until 2010 or later, due to the current economic climate.

User currently offlineLegolars From Denmark, joined Sep 2001, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2238 times:

transswede: yep but these things can change whenever things get better for sas.

I think if they are happy with the 321 performance...they might go for the 320 series...otherwise boeing would be the natural choice.


User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6417 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2222 times:

The last SAS DC-9 was finally retired on 7th January this year after more than 70,000 landings. But well, the DC-9 retirement may have dragged somewhat according to plans because of the introduction problems with the 737NG and Dash-8-Q400.

The MD-80s (and -90s) perform very well and are very popular among the pax. So I agree with Yyz717, I wouldn't expect any mass retirement on this side of 2010. Maybe the few MD-90s with the (in SAS fleet rather odd) V2500 engines will go earlier, should a good buyer show up. But the world market for good, used MD-90s sure isn't booming these days.

When the current SAS orders at Airbus have been delivered, and the 767s have been sold, then I guess that the purchacing department at SAS will be rather quiet for some years. There will be a few options at both A and B converted into orders, no more.

Preben Norholm



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlineATA L1011 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1379 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2219 times:

The majority of M80's were built in the 90's so they are in general a young fleet.


Treat others as you expect to be treated!
User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2218 times:

Preben ... the V2500's are also used on the A321 ..

There were serious rumours circeling about SAS taking over Delta's MD90's, but these plans were dropped after 9/11 ..




- I am LN-MOW, and I approve this message.
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2209 times:

SAS was also looking at the 5 ex-QQ/AA MD-90's.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3237 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2214 times:

The MD80s/90s are strong planes and are very well suited to multiple-sector operations - actually better so than 737NG or A32X. I would not expect a loyal MD customer like SAS to retire them soon.

Trintocan.



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