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User currently offlineTurbineBeaver From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1199 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1438 times:

How come Qantas has 747-400s with both GE and Rolls Royce engines? Don't airlines prefer to have just one type of engine for fleet commonality purposes? Is there any reason for this occurance?


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Secondly, is there any significance to the words "Longreach"? Do "Longreaches" have extra fuel tanks or something?

TB

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User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1393 times:

VH-OEB,C and D are ex MH and OZ. Thats why they have the different engines.

User currently offlineFlyinghighboy From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1376 times:

Which are which engines? I know that the one on the right are used by BA, QF and CX. Air NZ had one of those type 744's with those engines. How come hardly any airlines use them?
And isn't longreach because of the Sydney to London non stop?


User currently offlineMEA From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1366 times:

Heres some history from http://www.qantas.com.au/company/factfiles.html. Qantas was established by pioneer aviators Paul McGinness and Wilmot Hudson Fysh, and grazier Fergus McMaster, and registered in Brisbane on 16 November 1920. The company takes its name from the original registered title, Queensland and Northern Territory Aerial Services Limited. After the first Board meeting in Winton on 10 February 1921, the company relocated to Longreach later the same year, Brisbane in 1930 and to its current corporate headquarters in Sydney in 1938.

I believe QF bought the GE powered B744 from MH & OZ as they were being sold at good prices during the Asian economic crisis. Both asian carriers had excess capacity & QF needed the planes.

It is also interesting to note that QF have ordered the GE engine to power their new B744ERs.

I hope this info helps.


User currently offlineAJ From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 2386 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1345 times:

As MEA has stated, the Longreach name is a historical reference to Qantas' Queensland roots, also meaning 'Long Reach', a reference to the aircraft's increased range over the B747-300.
Most -400s also carry an individual name, starting with 'The City of Canberra'. VH-OJI is actually named 'Longreach'!

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The three GE aircraft, VH-OEB, OEC and OED, are a Boeing 747-48E ex Asiana and 2 Boeing 747-4H6s ex Malaysia respectively. They will soon be joined by GE powered B747-438ERs.


User currently offlineTsentsan From Singapore, joined Jan 2002, 2016 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1316 times:

The GE Powered 747ERs would be VH-OEE and VH-OEF onwards.


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User currently offlineN949WP From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2000, 1437 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1297 times:

While the majority of QF's 747's are RR-powered, they are no stranger to the GE CF-6 engine, as they have a large fleet of 767-300's powered by that engine.

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User currently offlineB-HXB From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 745 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1293 times:

I heard somewhere that Qantas had been unhappy with the GE powered 747s it has already...

User currently offlineMEA From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1283 times:

I thought they were happier with the GE powered 744s & that is why GE was selected for their new ERs.

User currently offlineAJ From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 2386 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1285 times:

That's not true B-HXB, the GE powered aircraft did take some time to come up to Qantas standard, but now with the fitting of GPS and FANS the 'Three Ugly Sisters' are proving to be very reliable, especially on the Pacific routes.

User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1237 times:

I'll be interested to know what are the "FANS" that are being fitted? As a B744 pilot is it a very much difference piloting both of them?


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User currently offlineMEA From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1199 times:

FANS refers to some navigational equipment, I think, but don't quote me. I remember reading an article in Australian Aviation.



User currently offlineB727-200 From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1051 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1184 times:


Don't QF run RR, GE and P&W on their B767 fleet? I know they definitely run GE's, and the B763's they got from BA are RR powered.

I suppose you have to take into account a certain critical mass with regards to spares/parts and labour. I had always worked to around 5-7 aircraft (twin-engine) as when optimum efficiencies start to kick in.

I am not sure how the labour side fits in thouhg. Does anyone know if power plant workers can be easily rated on multiple engine types, or do they normally stick to one type?

B727-200.


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