Kohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2520 times:
To elaborate a little, Avolar was United's attempt to join the lucrative biz jet fractional-ownership business. Basically, individuals or corporations can buy a chunk of time on a business jet and use it to go wherever they want, whenever they want to. Doing this on a large scale has been pioneered by Warren Buffet's NetJets and Bombardier's FlexJet. Watching those two companies take some of their best customers away, United's management decided to fight back by starting their own fractional ownership company. Business-wise, it was a brilliant move.. combining United's reputation with the flexibility of corporate jets. It'd also virtually guarantee profit as customers effectively pre-pay for their time, which in turn pays for the operation.. and then some. It also would've created a whole new revenue stream, good for diversification. In reality though, the decision to launch Avolar was seriously ill-timed. Labor relations at United have been sticky for quite some time and the double-whammy of the USAirways purchase and the launch of Avolar shook that antfarm. If management-employee relations were better, I think Avolar would've gotten a much better reception and quite possibly would have aircraft in the sky right now... but, the move to shut it down is probably in UAL's best interest right now as they try to fix what's broken before they try to build something else..
COboeing777 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 693 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2440 times:
Did they use CRJs or a similar looking jet for this? Because there were a few times where I seen CRJs or similar looking jets painted in United's colors taking off from Teterboro Airport in NJ. The only thing was that they didnt say United Airlines in white on the fuselage. Otherwise all the other colors were there. I've been curious as to what those planes were, and why they were painted in UA colors with name UA on it.
Lj From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4642 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2377 times:
According to the FT today, Dassault won't give UAL its USD 14mio deposit back and is indeed negotiating with UAL about penalty payments. Moreover, Dassault issued a statement where they say that they don't get into trouble by the cancellation of the order and intend to re-market the aircraft.