BizJet From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 269 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 876 times:
Ok, I'm not a pilot and have no experience in this type of stuff, so I'll give you my opinion.
I assume you'll have to retrain for whatever you choose. I guess you do this after you bid for new aircraft type. This might be a factor. A 767 might be harder to retrain for than a 737, which you are already trained on, or a MD-90. Where do you retrain? I think I heard that DL has a center in Miami.
I guess you would have to commute to/from work. A factor might be how easy will it be to commute. I assume you commute by means of jumpseat or empty passenger seat. If all flights to a certain city are full, there may be no backup seat if the jumpseat is not open. I guess you can jumpseat on different airlines, so this might not be much of a problem.
I think the 767 (200 or 300?) would be the neatest plane being a widebody and all, but you suffer in seniority. How important is seniority? What is your current seniority with a 737 MCO? Is it worth it to fly a bigger plane but have to do all the red eyes and other undesireables? I guess you would have less seniority on the 767 because most 767 pilots have more time than you.
Thanks for providing the information for the differnent fleet types out of DFW/LAX/SLC. Can you provide fleet types for the other bases (ATL/CVG/NYC/BOS I think)?
Also a question here. How do you go about commuting to your base city if you don't live there. I know you live in MCO right now so this isn't a consideration. But do you reserve a jumpseat or go standby on a flight to your base? What if you can't get on and miss the flight that you need to pilot? I'll like more info on this.
Great website! Here are some questions that came to my mind, and I hope you can provide some answers to my questions, as I want to be a pilot when I'm older but no little about the day-to-day life about the profession (your website is great and is just about everything I know on pilots!).
Also, after a few people respond, I'd like to here what you have already decided.
OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 866 times:
1. SLC/DFW/LAX 767 with low seniority
2. DFW/SLC 737 with good seniority
3. DFW MD-90 with great seniority
Not a pilot either (dispatcher) but here's my 2 cents worth and rationale FWIW...
I'd go with option #2...
Option #3 might have great senority, but since DL has announced plans to phases out this type in the next few years, you're eventually going to have to changes types again.
Option #1 doesn't have great senority, although I'm not versed in you pay rigs to know whether the pro of larger equipment would partially offset the con of lower senority.
Option #2 gives a better senority, and avoids at least 1 (and maybe 2) training events, not to mention the comfort of familairity with the 737. Deadheadings options are there at SLC/DFW on DL, HP, and WN (Love), and even AA (DFW) if you have an agreement with them.
Besides, if end up choosing option #2 and later don't like it, you can then blame Dispatch.... (just kidding!) Cheers!
MD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8475 posts, RR: 13 Reply 11, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 802 times:
Out of sentimental feelings for the MD-90, that's what I'd choose. I've heard that it has plenty of power and a great rate of climb. Although I'm not a pilot, my mother is, and I've flown little airplanes lots of times.I have heard that flying the MD-80 is like balancing a garbage truck atop a needle. I'd be attracted by the seniority of the MD-90, although the 767 is a great airplane. You may disagree, but I wish (from a passenger's standpoint) that Delta had bought the 150 MD-90s it at one point had orders and options for.
There is one thing you might be able to tell me about though. It seems like every time I fly on a Delta MD-88 (I live in AL, and always fly Delta) they make hard landings. In '98, there was one in Atlanta that certainly qaulified for carving the pilot's initials into the runway status. I personally prefer the MD-88 over the 737, but at 10:00 PM late one Sunday night, flying into HSV, aboard a 737-300 (which for some reason didn't have a nice of an interior as the MD-88) on a dark and stormy night, that pilot made the smoothest landing I've felt in a while. That's certainly something to ponder.
Delta737 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 516 posts, RR: 11 Reply 12, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 805 times:
FLYAA757 - 767 rates for a 3rd year FO pays around $117 per hour compared to $99/hour for the MD-88/90.
MD90 - I'm not sure why it lands a little rougher. maybe not as much dampening on the gear struts and probably something to do with the way the automatic ground spoilers activate after landing.
And the winner is...
Bizjet! I got awarded the MD-88/90 in DFW. Let me know what email address you want!
They haven't announced my training date so I still have an opportunity to bid LAX 767/727 and/or SLC 767/737 which are my two most suitable bases for a commute to PHX.
I bid the -88/90 for two reasons. First, the aircraft in DFW is going relatively junior and seniority is king in this game. Next, the -88/90 will probably be my first captain seat and upgrades are getting quicker and quicker because of retirements.
For all of you that are wondering, the "seat lock" at Delta is 12 months from the date of the award. A "seat lock" means that you owe 12 months on the new equipment, but you can changes bases with similar aircraft types at will.
MD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8475 posts, RR: 13 Reply 13, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 789 times:
As the son of a pilot, I've got to admit that I like technology in my cockpit. The more the better. If I had a couple of million I'd buy myself a used Beech Starship with no less than 8 primary displays and 6 secondary displays (I think I got the numbers right). So my question, Delta737,
Which cockpit do you prefer? The MD-88, MD-90, 737NG, or 767? I love the MD-88/MD-90 but I really like the 737NG cockpit better.