Tekelbery From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1509 times:
Why is there no entertainment on west bound flights? A 3-5 hour flight can use a little entertainment but there is absolutely none! The A320 I was on DTW-SFO (which was the worst and most uncomftorable plane I have been on) had no TVs whatsoever. The 757 on the way back (which was far better than the A320) had TVs sitting there just collecting dust. What is the purpose of cutting out entertainment on these west bound flights? If you payed for the earphones, wouldn't they be making a profit?
Also, why does NWA have the nerve to call an awful tiny sandwhich, a rotten apple and some sunchips a lunch? Most airlines I have been on would call that a snack.
Concorde1518 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 746 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1373 times:
That's funny that you should say that, because I have found the A320's more comfortable than the 757's. Also, the SMF-MSP flight didn't have any entertainment, but I didn't even realize it, because I'm just happy looking out the window, and I don't like movies on the planes anyway, just, music. Music and looking out the window. However, I was not happy that the seats all had headphone jacks, but the system was not available, so, Tekelbery, I do agree with you. Although I tend to not use it, flights like that should have it. However, I still think NW is a good airline.
Acidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1360 times:
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Didn't the flight attendant play the guitar? I've heard on some westbound flights, the first officer will do a duet with the lead flight attendant. They even had a captain on an eastbound flight once who did a juggling act, it was pretty cool. He also did card tricks and made balloon animals for the kids. Now THAT is entertainment.
Rjx From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1312 times:
They use to have entertainment prior to sept 11 but there cutting a lot of services no enteratainment,magaizines and a lot of food service are gone. I was just on a 2 1/2 hour CO flight with food,magazines and entertainment. On the way back I was switched to NW on the same 2 1/2 hour flight the only thing I recived was some peanuts and a drink. The CO flight seemed to go by much faster and I enjoyed the flight more than the NW flight.
Braniff727 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 686 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1291 times:
NWA is in the process of switching ALL video equipment on all of it's 757's to be the same as the new 757-300 that will be coming online in a few months. This has been in the works for a while.
The new system will feature drop-down LCD display screens in the over head units. There is RUMOR (note, just a rumor, but it seems logical) that the A320 / A319 fleet will have video equipment installed as well.
Hector Adler, VP Inflight Sevices stated that they want to have a standardized video system fleet wide so that all safety demos and announcements can be the same on every flight.
I would assume that since NW is bringing back most of it's furloughed people and returning to 100% of it's pre 9-11 schedule, the other amentities will be coming back, along with IFE. I would love to see the return of IFE on the Airbus too!
Nwa747-400 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1337 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1275 times:
The A320 and 757s have the same basic seat pitch of 31-32" as is standard on most airlines.
The A320 has a shorter wider cabin which I like and the aisle is wider.
No IFE- heaven forbid you read a book. (and don't worry we all have heard the rumors it is coming back even to the A319/A320 fleet too).
NW doesnt call it "lunch" there was a big change last summer to calling the flights with food served "meal" flights. If you look at the gate displays they will say "snack" or "meal" served. NW does not try and claim a full dinner or lunch is served. Last time I check the CO service of a turkey sanwich was similar and everyone LOVES Co.
Bkkair From Thailand, joined Aug 2001, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1247 times:
I don't understand how CO and NW code-share or cooperate on anything. Their philosophies are so different. CO was the only US airline that didn't cut back on service after 9/11. Kept meals, blankets, magazines and IFE. How CO could risk sullying their reputation by teaming up with an airline such as NW is beyond comprehension.
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4062 posts, RR: 27
Reply 15, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1234 times:
BKKair: CO and NW teamed up so that CO didn't go bankrupt... AGAIN. NW saved CO's a$$es and the yought to all be thankful they didn't get gobbled up by DL, which was the original plan. Now that CO is supposidly stable and back on its feet they are quite snobbish and bitter towards NW. Too bad the employees don't realize that the NW/CO deal exchanges thousands of passengers each day and adds money to each airlines bottom line. That's why they're continuing with the codeashare... and that they signed a contract.
Tekelberry: to answer your question. IFE was removed from all domestic flying post 9/11 to save money. To maintain a library of videos each month and to purchase those headseats that they let you keep for $1 and to maintain the video equipment, all costs MONEY. In addition a private party maintained the video equipment, and NW apparantly didn't want too many "outside people" milling around on their planes in the post 9/11 environment.
True, NW removed many ammenities, but that is apart of their conservative approach to business. They're not stupid and realize that it is a temporary cutabck. When things start to improve, they'll bring them back. NW and CO have two different business styles, that's why CO didn't make any cutbacks. They just chose to raise prices and lay off more people...
Tekelberry, you prove a great point. You got food, but complained about it. Airlines can never win with people. They try and provide service and people complain. They don't provide service and people complain.
Hey look at it this way, when IFE returns, at least you'll have digital headsets and not those ear hurting nasty pneumatic tubes that DL uses on their planes... you say NW is cheap?
Mitchell Gant From Montserrat, joined Aug 2000, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1217 times:
Get your facts straight, NW did not rescue CO from bankruptcy. When alliance discussions began in 1998 CO had a billion dollars in the bank. CO had the choice of taking the NW deal and preserving the independence of the company, or to accept a merger with DL that would have provided shareholders a significant profit.
CO's last bankruptcy was in 1993 and the company recieved assistance from both the Texas Pacific group as well as Air Canada. This was the same period of time when NW had to get major concessions from its unionized employees and the State of Minnesota to avoid its own bankruptcy.
Hammer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 689 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1205 times:
EVERYONE STOP BITCHING!!!!! Here are ideas for entertainment-1)Look out the window...2)Get a book...3)portable DVD player. food-1)Buy something before you get on the plane. What matters here is...are you getting there safe? Or unsafe and entertainment & food....hmmmm. There have been serious cutbacks due to a thing called--remember 9/11?? The airlines are finally starting to get back to there normal schedules..etc...give it time, everything will be back, including food and yes, entertainment.
Rooinc From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1194 times:
I don't really understand why some people on this board constantly say that inflight entertainment, food and, oh, legroom, don't matter. I think that the flying public EXPECTS to get to their destination safely. So the arguement that 'at least you get there' doesn't hold much water. I think that the inflight amenities MATTER!
A330300 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1166 times:
IFE was cut for cost cutting measures. Simple as that. How come no one ever complains about having to make 3 stops with WN to fly across the country....they don't have any entertainment either. And no, mooing at the cattle gates at your fellow passengers and shoving your way down to the pen does NOT count.
Macmac76 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1162 times:
I haven't flown NW. But my sister flew recently on NW SJC-DTW on the A319 then connected to a CO 738 DTW-IAH. She said NW's service is subpar compared to continental...she mentioned how the seats were uncomfortable on the Airbus compared to CO's 738s. No winged or adjustable headrests on NW while CO's planes do...even CO has entertainment on most of its flights and has meal service on flights 2 hours or longer, or at least sandwich service. I've flown CO several times and I have to say it has a wonderful service.