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AA's International Intentions @ STL  
User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (14 years 2 months 21 hours ago) and read 1564 times:

Kind of a follow up question to whether 777's will be visiting STL on a regular basis. Anyone out there know of any plans to get STL up to AA standards for international operations? If so, which city pairings?


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User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (14 years 2 months 20 hours ago) and read 1490 times:

IMHO its too close to ORD, where AA has a huge hub.

User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (14 years 2 months 20 hours ago) and read 1484 times:

LGW-STL is mainly transfer traffic?

User currently offlineRogueTrader From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (14 years 2 months 20 hours ago) and read 1460 times:

My sources say STL will be lucky to have any AA international service after the summer. Even if St. Louis as a city is showinig decent business for routes to London, AA would rather route these pax through ORD or DFW.

AA sees STL as a purely domestic hub, which BTW includes possibly moving domestic connection banks from both ORD and DFW to STL.

Another possibility I've heard, and I don't want to alarm you, is this...Reducing STL signficantly and using the extra TWA capacity to increase the presence at completely new or current focus cities, e.g. RDU.

kind regards,


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (14 years 2 months 19 hours ago) and read 1429 times:

The whole idea of AA buying TWA was to gain another major east/west hub to ease crowding at ORD and DFW and to allow for additional expansion. AA was thinking domestic and not international with regard to St. Louis.

Will AA add more international services out of STL? I dont think its very likely since, as stated above, AA is committed to ORD as a transatlantic gateway and DFW is nearby for any future transpacific flights......a good question is whether the STL-LGW flight has a long-term future?

User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (14 years 2 months 19 hours ago) and read 1412 times:

although it is likely that aa will not use stl as a international gateway, that doesnt mean stl will never see the 777. stl still could possibly see the 777 domestically to dfw or lax.

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16525 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (14 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 1386 times:

Whether AA intends for STL to have a sizeable intl hub in the future, there is still a sizeable enough market for STL-LGW/CDG nonstops, particularly in the summer. It's reasonable that these could be retained even if STL is considered a 'domestic' hub by AA.

I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5665 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (14 years 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 1362 times:

Does anyone know if TW's STL-NRT traffic rights have expired?
On another note: LGW has a future, CDG is probably dead. Would like to see them expand to Mexico, TW
had a few flights and with AA's marketing strength,
Mexico could be a profitable market. STL has one of
the fastest growing Latino populations in the country.
Wouldn't mind seeing a couple of oneworld carriers here either...IB? BA (not holding my breath)?

User currently offlineBlink182 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 5499 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (14 years 2 months ago) and read 1287 times:

According to the AAdvantage newsletter, STL-YVR is being planned to start in the next few months.

All in all though, I agree with most of the above. LGW will probably stay, but I think the biggest aircraft in masses will be the 757.

I think STL's international flights will be into Mexico and Canada with probably the daily LGW flight. I do however think that some of DFW and ORD's domestic flights will be transferred to STL.


Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (14 years 2 months ago) and read 1265 times:

Thanks for the info guys.

User currently offlineAAtripleseven From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (14 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1235 times:

Well said dutchjet...

With the construction of the int'l terminal at DFW and AA's super terminal at JFK, I doubt they'll allow for significant int'l traffic at STL.

User currently offlineAerLingus From China, joined Mar 2000, 2371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (14 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1221 times:


Also, don't forget about the HUGE ORD expansion program that's in the works.

Get your patchouli stink outta my store!
User currently offlineDoug From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 861 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (14 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1212 times:

I wonder about AA's intentions at STL.There are scores of intl flights from MIA,DFW,and ORD but I personally do not see STL as a intl hub.It all comes down to O&D.

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