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Air Transat Next Week On NBC  
User currently offlineKtliem@yvr From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 161 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2966 times:

For those of you in North America.

NBC Dateline will dedicate their April 2 broadcast to the Air Transat mishap over the Atlantic.  Smile

Here's the announcement from NBC:

TUESDAY, APRIL 2 - 10:00 PM ET
On a wing and a prayer
A routine flight suddenly becomes an emergency unlike any seen before--miles out to sea, their jumbo jet glides with no power and no place to land. Then, something happens that makes aviation history.



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User currently offlineKEWR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

Yeah I saw that, but what exactly is "something happens that makes aviation history"?

User currently offlineCX829 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2677 times:

I wonder that also.

User currently offlineN509JB From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2653 times:

Me too...

Knowing how the media screws up, and how Dateline overdramatizes, this should be a very "entertaining" segment.  Insane

B


User currently offlineCessnapimp From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1320 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2610 times:

C'mon...
You guys have to admit that an event like an airliner running out of gas in the middle of the atlantic and happens to be able to a patch of islands is quite remarkable.

Grégoire


User currently offlineSpinkid From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1094 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2595 times:

I believe it was the longest "gliding" landing in aviation history.

User currently offlineClipper471 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 726 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2581 times:
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Once again the media err by calling it a "jumbo" jet, which is a 747, instead of a widebody. Wasn't it an A330?

User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2573 times:

Jumbo jet can be used loosly. Many people associate "heavies" as jumbo jets. In my mind, a jumbo jet is a 747, but again, it's used loosly.

This should be very interesting to watch though!



"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineB808/A400 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2566 times:

Judging by the ad they showed, it looked like a twin-jet; possibly a 767.
But then again, those aren't normally allowed out to sea.

Btw...the "prayer" word might be a clue. Could be another overdramatized
NBC story about how a jesus freak saved the day by praying.


User currently offlineSetjet From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2561 times:

It was an A330.

User currently offlineFrequentFlyKid From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2539 times:

B808/A400 - What do you mean 767's aren't usually allowed out to sea? The routinely fly transatlantic routes.

User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2527 times:

A330-200.

Aren't 767's the airliner most used on trans-atlantic flights?

LY744.



Pacifism only works if EVERYBODY practices it
User currently offlineNicolasrolland From Canada, joined Jun 2001, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2526 times:


Living where the pilot of this story live, can confirm
to you that it is a airbus330 .. now the question is
is an airbus 330 is consider a Jumbo Jet... It's quite a big plane... no?

Well I guess we will still look the nbc dateline  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Cya


User currently offlineDripstick From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2527 times:

B808/A400...

An A330 IS a twin jet and B767s are flying across the drink as we speak.

Should be an interesting program. Wonder what angle they'll take with the pilot. He did a remarkable job landing it but also dumped the fuel, though I don't think it was a blatant mistake.

We'll see.



What's another word for thesaurus?
User currently offlineCX829 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2500 times:

I personally think that running out of fuel should have never happened. From my understanding, Capt Robert Piche thought it was a fuel imbalance, shut off one of the engine valves and tried to cross-feed to the other engine. What he didn't realize (till the last min.) was that the engine was actually malfunctioning and all that was transferred ended up over the water as dumped fuel. It was engine fuel leak.

Therefore I don't see him as a hero. I see him as an idiot, who, in a desperate/panic mode, landed the plane safely without power, flight controls and fuel. The PIC (and maintenance) together have to ensure flight is carried out safely. Well, they didn't. They made the pax go bananas, like a ride to hell.  Wow!


User currently offlineB808/A400 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2435 times:

Ooops, my bad. The twins are allowed over the Atlantic, since they
can satisfy ETOPs rules there.

Btw, NBC used stock footage or something, and the ad I saw had a
Continental 767 (or 777).


User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6202 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2410 times:

I sure won't miss this program.
Chepos



Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offlineCX829 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2388 times:

I don't think the program would tell us any more than we already knew, cuz the investigation reports haven't been released yet. It's just another selling point for the TV station to get more audience. But we'll see.

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16245 posts, RR: 56
Reply 18, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2387 times:

CBC had a good documentary about this last fall. Maybe this NBC one will be a re-broadcast of the CBC one, if not their own production.

If it's an American production, watch for a million inaccurate facts about Canada and/or Portugal and/or Air Transat and/or the Azores and/or the A332. etc. etc. in typical American fashion about foreign events.

haha




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2383 times:

when exactly is this documentary going to be on?

User currently offlineCessnapimp From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1320 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2363 times:

At 2200 EST Tuesday, April 2nd 2002 on NBC.

Oh boy oh boy! I can't wait to see it than log in and make smart- ass comments with you guys afterwards!

Fun! Fun! Fun!

Grégoire


User currently offlineLemieux66 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 66 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2340 times:

B808:

767s are also allowed over the pacific.. I flew on a HNL-AKL 767-300ER on Air NZ.... they're quite an amazing plane.


User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 22, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2311 times:

So, everybody going to watch this tonight? I can't wait! I surely wont miss it.

For those of you in Toronto, it seems like it will be on chanel 11.



"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineMls515 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3076 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2300 times:


Yea, I'll bet NBC will done fu-k it up.



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User currently offlineNicolasrolland From Canada, joined Jun 2001, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2290 times:


Is Captain Piche an idiot like CX829 said in this feed?
I wonder really maybe the act that you describe is not very intelligent but to land this huge aircraft after gliding Im sorry but it is still a remarkable act and to do so is a proof of stable and good nerve... knowing as much as captain can know about airplane .. my gosh he remained calm (I guess and hope hehe) and he glide all the way down to ground  Smile/happy/getting dizzy hehe

come on people let's all see how american will describe this lovely event  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Nic


25 Dripstick : ...so, if you are a passenger staring aimlessly out the window on this ScareBUS and suddenly notice fuel streaming from an engine...DAH!?! Maybe it wa
26 BWIA330 : Hey, I sure wont miss this. I want to see exactly what they say about the aircraft. Regards, BWIA330
27 Post contains images Cmk10 : I'm gonna pass. I hate Dateline, when they tried to do a Post 9/11 story about UA 62 (the one that got crashed intentionaly) they used stock footage f
28 Neilalp : So far it isn't half bad.
29 Sccutler : ....But there was more terror to come!
30 Mls515 : A little too much drama but I agree, so far not too bad.
31 AlphaZulu : Please, no details!!!!!! We're still in the 7' o'clock hour here on the west coast and would like to have an unbiased look at it!
32 Post contains images Nicolasrolland : only one thing to say : Interesting indeed but americanized tv program :-P (no offence I love everyone) Nic
33 Sccutler : No details, but can we please have alittle bit less of pussy-whiney-boy? He needs to go get his hair frosted and stay away from the camera.
34 Sccutler : "...it was a foreseeable accident," says the pussy-whiney-boy. Take it from this lawyer, PWB is quoting from his lawyer. Quick, how many of you (who a
35 Watewate : It wasn't too badly done. I like that animations they did.
36 JonPaulGeoRngo : I can't foresee using "foreseeable" in the foreseeable future. Not that bad of program...of course I had to see right away whether I could do the same
37 Post contains images Dripstick : *_*_**_*_***__*___
38 Dash8King : Air Transat must not be to happy with that PR, this will hurt sales even more for them and they aren't to stable as we speak.
39 Chepos : It was actually a good show, the animations were amazing. Props to NBC. Chepos
40 Slawko : Very unimpressive show...all drama...little substance...typical news show docdrama...
41 Dripstick : Last I checked, the Azores were in the mid-atlantic, not north atlantic which was repeated over-and-over...melodrama for sure. Overall I thought it wa
42 Fly_ATA : Horrible ...overdramatic...and typical Dateline ! My god how many times could they show that air transat logo ?? little substance but lots of flash!
43 PSU.DTW.SCE : All I can say is I really didn't care for that guy (aka pussy whiney boy), and that woman annoyed me just as much. I also couldn't stand how they had
44 Post contains images Dripstick : **__*__***_
45 Post contains images Spinkid : I would have liked to have heard more of the technical aspects and how the investigation if proceeding, and less of the drama. it was pretty informing
46 Post contains images Nicolasrolland : Well I would have love them to talk more about the background of the pilot over here, (in canada after 48h of this news they talk about his background
47 CX829 : I dont have the exact measurements, but I remember it's about 9000' long!?
48 LY744 : Dateline said it was "2 miles long" which would be about 10500', pretty standard for a US military base, I guess. LY744.
49 Woodsboy : Mainstream American media shouldnt ever do any "investigative" story having to do with aviation because its clear that they never consult anyone who k
50 777gk : I did like the use of a CO 737-800 cabin before and after the commercials..... Think this one will be long enough?
51 MetalBird : This is my first post. The Lajes runway lenght is 10865 feet, the width is 300 feet (for B52 takeoffs). The runway lenght that the AirTransat A330 use
52 Mirrodie : Just a simple question. I missed the show last night. Can it be viewed online anywhere or will it be re broadcast sometime? thanks.
53 Post contains images Planelover : Thanks for letting me know it was on. I read the post and jumped up to catch the rest of the show. It had probably the best animated aircraft I had ev
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