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SN Brussels Pilots (45hrs/months)  
User currently offlineLx-maria From Luxembourg, joined Sep 2001, 70 posts, RR: 1
Posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1125 times:

I heard that the SN Brussels Airlines pilots only have a duty roster of 45hrs a month.
For that, they get a full salary.
Loadfactor is only 50% on their flights.
Anybody to confirm this ?

I really thought it was looking good but if all this is true; i think they are just burning capital and the end would be around august 2003.
It's a pity as i would love to return to Belgium.
M.M.

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User currently offlinePressclub From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 774 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1070 times:

Hi Marg!

I don't think this is true. Loadfactors are above 50 pct and a further increase will be there from the moment the LH Africa operation starts...

According to the management the results are in line with the business plan forecasts


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1041 times:

He Lx-maria, care to borrow me your crystal boll? I need the lotto numbers.


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User currently offlineLx-maria From Luxembourg, joined Sep 2001, 70 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 980 times:

Here are the lotto numbers for next Saturday
Good luck
1-5-15-31-32-41-45


User currently offlineLx-maria From Luxembourg, joined Sep 2001, 70 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 976 times:

("According to the management the results are in line with the business plan forecasts")

That's what i mean.
They predicted a loss of 100.000.000€ on a capital of 175.000.000€

So the crystal ball says august 2003.
Sorry september 2003; loadfactor is 52%.

It's terrible; i would love to come back to Belgium.
I'll wait another year and do my ATPL in the meantime.


User currently offlineSAS23 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 969 times:

Loadfactors really don't matter - it's the yields that count. A 100% loadfactor when you're losing money on every seat will still lose you money - whereas a low load factor when you have very high yields may well make you money.

Crew rosters need to be 60 hours per month at least - ideally around 75 hours for optimum utilisation.


User currently offlineSN-A330 From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 1129 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 934 times:

Can't remember how many hours SN-pilots are doing at the moment but I've heard that it is a lot ! Probably much more than 45/month.

regards, SN-A330



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User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2392 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 922 times:
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Well, compared to what it used to be, cockpit crews and Pursers fly a lot less.
Previously when DAT was working for SABENA, there were a lot more flights for RJ85/100 & BAe 146. There were a lot of trainings for captains and new Pursers trained every month. Of course you cannot compare both periods. SNBA prefers flying less but with adapted schedules (no feeding market anymore in BRU think about it !!!), and aicrafts well loaded.
Regarding load factor: it improves every week and iit is even beyound expectations. SNBA isn't doing that bad compared to other carriers here in BRU. SNBA sells tickets at higer prices than SN but makes more money on it !!!

FB



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User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 891 times:

Hmmm, here in Belgium the lotto numbers are up to 42.


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