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User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1518 posts, RR: 4
Posted (12 years 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 812 times:

For those of you who know where Kaohsiung is and the lack of flights out of KHH of EVA Air, don't you think BR is ignoring the southern Taiwan market? They used to have KHH-SIN/KUL/BKK/JKT/SUB/DPS/LAX(!!!) and now the only one left is MFM...

Wouldn't it make sense to just wet lease Uni Air's MD90 (if they think the 762/763s are too big) to fly these routes? Uni Air's got like 14 MD-90s, I wonder what's the utilisation rate is for them since they only opearte domestically and very few international routes...

KHH-SIN/KUL/DPS/BKK are the ones that need BR flights... especially KHH-SIN... 3xweekly SQ flt and 5xweekly CI flt...

opinions?

Jimmy

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User currently offlineMAC_Veteran From Taiwan, joined Jun 1999, 726 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 803 times:

Jimmy

That will happen if the market shows up in KHH. It's a very difficult market to get a foothold in and then develop. KHH also needs more air cargo development too. If that were to take root, then we might see more business traffic. Problem is, KHH is so hemmed in, landwise, that the only way to expand it would be to demolish a lot of buildings on the north side of the airfield (not including that new control tower they just opened of course (G)

KHH is more of a business origination or destination city rather than hub market. I can see it's potential someday, but it's not there yet. Even US carriers like Northwest and Continental Micronesia have had their share of problems keeping it sustainable. Seems like the only busy times of day are early morning runs to catch the international departures at Taipei-CKS, then a burst of activity to HKG and MNL, then later afternoon flights to HKG, then the evening rush with some international flights arriving from HKG, Japan and SE Asia. That's about it with Taiwan domestic traffic interspersed through the day.

I do enjoy flying from KHH as it's very convenient. Their KHH-LAX service was a good idea to experiment, but the market just wasnt there, even with a Combi 744. I think the service lasted only a few months. In a few years though, if the economy picks up and Southern Taiwan starts to benefit more from WTO then we'll see more flights. Believe me, I'd love to see more service out of there (I live in Tainan county) and I'd like to be able to use my Evergreen Club card more often. (G) From a few friends of mine within the Taiwanese airline business, traffic was struggling even before 9/11, it's been worse since, BUT signs of a slow rebound may be underway.

BR was flying quite a few routes out of KHH a few years ago though, even on their domestic connection from TPE-KHH they had 762's flying. I once flew on a morning 762 service into KHH after a long haul from the states on MAS from LAX-TPE. That flight continued on to Surabaya, Indonesia.

Nowadays it's the MD-90 on the TPE-CKS (and very popular TSA airport (Taipei Sungshan) -KHH shuttle. (The MD-90 is a great ride BTW but the TPE-KHH run is almost always practically empty, but even 146-300 they used to fly on the route was half empty too, although the late night flights were sometimes pretty full.) I tend to believe the CAA rules not allowing domestic flights to operate from TPE is one of the problems that some of the airlines are facing. If Taipei travelers had a choice to fly from either SungShan or Chiang Kai Shek, just like travelers in New York can choose Newark or LaGuardia for flights to Washington or Boston, the Taiwanese carriers might make more money and ergo, more taxes and revenues collected by the Taiwan government. The original ruling on this was to protect Chiang Kai Shek Airport and SungShan from losing business to each other. Now that both are firmly established and healthy, I think this stupid rule should be abolished. This old rule sounds almost as dumb as the Wright Amendment, which protects DFW Intl from Love Field in Dallas.

If traffic comes back they may want to hold onto those 767s a longer, there's decades of life and use with them and I have a feeling they will need flexibility in market sizes under the A330-200's capacity. They made a great choice with the A332 for those larger routes.
Regards
MAC


User currently offlinePW100 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2002, 2485 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 794 times:

Maybe a bit off-topic...Anyway, how many flights and by which airlines are there between Kaohsiung and Taipei?

PW100



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User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1518 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 780 times:

MAC, I have been on the 762s TPE-KHH before as well, and they used to serve hot fried noodles and fresh juice and tea/coffee for the 50min flt... now...

Oh wells, hope they'll return to KHH sooner or later... KHH is like BNE... not much international traffic at all...

PW100, there are 4 airlines on the TSA/KHH route. and there are about 50-55 flights a day.

EF-757-200s and MD83s
B7-Md90s
GE-A320/A321s
AE-F100s and 738s

hope this helps

Jimmy


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