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Jetblue Installing Hidden Cameras On Board  
User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (14 years 2 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2426 times:

Jetblue will become the first airline worldwide to install hidden cam on all of its A320 fleet.

However, during the inflight announcement, the flight attendant will notify that there are several cams on board, which some of them could be identified easily.

Jetblue decided not to install cameras on washrooms, because they think it's a private insult. However, passenger thinks its a good idea to install cameras in the washroom.

United and Delta has decided to follow Jetblue to install the cameras on board. These cameras links to the cockpit room, so the captain doesn't need to leave the cockpit and know what happens in the passenger cabin.

If they install cameras onboard, I think this will eliminate the 'terrorist' and 'mile high club members'...

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User currently offlineJonPaulGeoRngo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (14 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2364 times:

Even with terrorism taken into consideration, pilot error, weather and aircraft systems failure will continue to be far and away the leading cause of airline crashes and the loss of life.

In 2001, of the 34 fatal incidents, only 4 (11% of total) were related to 9-11. In previous years, the percentage was even smaller.

Perhaps the airlines should turn the cameras on themselves to better assist accident investigators. External cameras in conjunction with black boxes could be a tremendous boon to accident investigators.

What the heck, let's videotape everyone, doing everything, 24 hrs a day. We're all suspects anyway. Gotta give George Orwell credit, he was only off by 18 years.

User currently offline2cn From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 648 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (14 years 2 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2309 times:

Technically jetBlue isnt the first. Delta already has a plane flying with cameras thruout the cabin- its been flying for a couple months. jetBlue how ever is the first to decide to install them on their entire fleet.

User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34614 posts, RR: 70
Reply 3, posted (14 years 2 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2307 times:

2cn, jetBlue also has one A320 with cameras that has been flying for a while now as a trial. I don't know who came first, DL or jetBlue, though I had no idea Delta was trying it out. What kind of plane is it?

User currently offlineDripstick From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (14 years 2 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2287 times:

I think this is the third posting on this topic?


What's another word for thesaurus?
User currently offlineDeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (14 years 2 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2283 times:



It's a new day. Every moment matters. Now, more than ever.
User currently offlineLY772 From Israel, joined Aug 2001, 1340 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (14 years 2 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2258 times:

Are these cameras going to be live to the Tower or recorded onto a tape on the a/c?

User currently offline2cn From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 648 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (14 years 2 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2222 times:

Delta started flying theirs in October. Here is the news story.
It was released around, or on 10/30 as thats when the original post was made on the aol Delta board.
Delta to Test New Security Measures

.c The Associated Press

ATLANTA (AP) - Part of its efforts to make flying safer, and more secure, Delta Air Lines displayed security modifications Monday it's testing on a medium-range jet, featuring a closed-circuit camera system in the passenger cabin and a transponder pilots will activate if there is a hijacking.

The airline, which expects to test the modified MD-88 for three months, has not decided whether to equip its entire fleet with the cameras and transponders. Company officials declined to say where or how many cameras were on the plane.

Delta also said it finished reinforcing the cockpit doors on its 575 airplanes Sunday.

Since terrorists hijacked and crashed four planes Sept. 11, airlines are struggling to persuade many Americans that flying remains a safe proposition. The sharp plunge in traffic has led to enormous financial losses in the industry and a $15 billion government bailout package.

Pilots will use the cameras to see who is outside the cockpit door and can monitor any section of the cabin whenever they choose to turn the system on, said Jamie McElvaney, Delta's director of aircraft engineering.

A small monitor fits on the control panels of the first officer's seat on the narrow-body jet. The installation takes about three days, depending on the size of the airplane, and costs $8,000 to $15,000, said Kent Horton, a Delta engineer.

Pilots probably won't use the cameras much on routine flights, Delta officials said.

The other device, the transponder, is designed to transmit the plane's location in case the flight is hijacked.

The hijackers in the terrorist attacks last month on New York and Washington switched off the transponders, preventing ground officials from monitoring the jets' movements.

The modified transponder cannot be disabled from the cockpit, although Delta officials declined to say where it has been positioned. It will be used only in a hijacking.

Udo Rieder, Delta's vice president of engineering and planning, said the company's regional carriers ACJet, Atlantic Southeast Airlines, Comair and SkyWest are modifying cockpit doors ``on an accelerated schedule.''

Delta and Northwest are serving as co-chairs of an industry task force designed to draft cockpit door security protocols, with an April 2003 deadline, he said.

``When it comes to safety, we don't compete,'' Rieder said.

While Delta has not decided definitively whether it will install the cameras and transponder on each plane, one Delta pilot at Monday's unveiling said he looks forward to having them on every jet.

``We're a lot safer than we were before September 11th, but we're not as secure as we're going to be,'' said Craig ``Scott'' Coleman, a Delta pilot and a member of the Air Line Pilots Association security committee.

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