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New Italian Low-Cost Airline (and Ryanair/easyJet)  
User currently offlineTeahan From Virgin Islands (British), joined Nov 1999, 5199 posts, RR: 72
Posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 549 times:


Hello,

A new Italian low-cost airline is opening called “Ciao Fly” It seems to make sense since Ryanair seems to have been quite easily accepted among Italians. Not much is really known about them except the following:

They will operate the following routes starting the 3rd of June:

Milan-Parma-Paris Beauvais 2 daily
Milan Parma-London Luton 3 weekly
Catania-Rimini 1 daily
Rimini-Paris Beauvais 3 weekly
Rimini-London Luton 3 weeky
Rimini-Brussels 3 weekly (The Brussels airport they are planning to operate out of is Liege and not Charleroi where Ryanair operate from.)

Their website is http://www.ciaofly.com and is a little amateurish in my honest opinion.

BMI Baby:

There was an interesting article in yesterday’s FT about BMI Baby. The CEO of BMI is reported to be tired of hearing about the growing success of low-cost airlines (I wonder why *g*) In the article, he also claims that low-cost airlines will stop growing in the next 6 to 12 months and that BMI’s answer to low-cost, BMI Baby, have no plans to expand beyond East Midlands.

Ryanair:

Ryanair are seemingly doing well from their new hub in Frankfurt-Hahn, well better than I expected considering the cold reception they got on various forums with many people saying Germans would never accept Ryanair. Their load-factor was 72% in February 80% in March and bookings for the next months are looking good. One more interesting fact is that a study by the Frankfurt-Hahn airport authorities showed that over 20% of passengers travelled over 200km to the airport.

easyJet:

They will probably announce the 75 plan order within the new 2 weeks. Someone on PPRUNE (http://www.pprune.org) posted that Airbus has offered to take all of easyJet’s B737-700’s if they buy A319’s. The deal might not be too bad since there is quite a demand for a B737-700’s. But remember, those are only RUMOURS!

Jeremiah




Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
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User currently offlineGdabski From Poland, joined Oct 2001, 420 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 461 times:

What equipment does CiaoFly use? I couldn't find it on their website. Also are there any photos of their planes already?

Gdabski

User currently offlineTeahan From Virgin Islands (British), joined Nov 1999, 5199 posts, RR: 72
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 452 times:

Gdabski,

It seems that they will use B737-300 aircraft, or at least that is what I heard.

No pictures yet.

Jeremiah


Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineDaV From Italy, joined Jun 2001, 669 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 428 times:

Urgh! It was not enough having Ryanair...
First they have the ugliest name aviation has ever heard...
Are they gonna advertise PARMA for another Milan airport?!?!?! C'mon, Parma it's even farther than Hahn to Frankfurt... we're talking of about 110km in one of the most trafficated Italian highway...
Moreover, Parma sole runway is only 1200m long, so I don't think a B737 can easlily take off from there. I still think it's a 1st April joke... Parma airport web site doesn't announce what should be a great deal (for them)!

Rgds

DaV


Two monologues do not make a dialogue
User currently offlineTeahan From Virgin Islands (British), joined Nov 1999, 5199 posts, RR: 72
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 403 times:

DaV,

Parma actually has a 1900 metre runway (45 metres wide) with plans to extent it to 2100 metres. So the runway issue is obviously not a problem .

Now the distance is another story. Did a check on Autoroute Express and found Parma to be 132 kilometres from Milan!

Jeremiah


Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineTeahan From Virgin Islands (British), joined Nov 1999, 5199 posts, RR: 72
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 388 times:

Hello,

I still can't figure out if it is a joke or not. I looked through their conditions of carriage and found that it was all just copied and pasted from Ryanair.

Did a check on who owns the website. It is "Bianchini, Renzo" living in the Swiss-Italian part of Switzerland. The website is indeed designed by a real company.

Hmmmmmm

Jeremiah


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User currently offlineTekelbery From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 378 times:

The pictures they use for their site are just taken off of Boeing's site lol.

User currently offlineDaV From Italy, joined Jun 2001, 669 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 360 times:

Are you sure about the runway? I checked again and the Association of Italian Airport Handlers says that the Parma runway is 1200m long and right 45m wide (2000/2001 pdf from their site). Anyway, I'm still for the joke... I've tried to send an e-mail to the Parma Airport but their mail server was down and so I can't still check if their plan to have a new airline. Their timetable reports anything about it.

Moreover, in the Ciao Flight site in the condition, there's a funny question: "Can I transport my Iguana aboard?", and the answer says "Yes for a limit of 4 animals per aircraft, check your travel agency due to the heavy request, many of our flights are at maximum capacity for animals"... how can they have still reached max capacity of 4 animals per flight IF they have still to take off and nobody knows anything about them?!

DaV


Two monologues do not make a dialogue
User currently offlineGdabski From Poland, joined Oct 2001, 420 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 331 times:

Well even if it's a joke JustPlanes news report their schedule. Interesting...

User currently offlineTeahan From Virgin Islands (British), joined Nov 1999, 5199 posts, RR: 72
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 296 times:

Hello,

I rang their number a few times today and all I could get was the Swisscom Voicemail.

They claim to have a 1900 metre runway alright. Read this:

http://www.aeroportoparma.it/zelastrutturasx.htm

I'd say the Iguana firstly is simply trying to add a bit of humour. The rest that their flights are already booked out for animals, could it be a bad Italian -> English translation? What do they say on their Italian site?

Jeremiah


Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 2795 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 292 times:

Beauvais aiport Ciao Fly on the airport's website:

http://www.cci-oise.fr/airport/destinationf.html
http://www.cci-oise.fr/airport/index.html



User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 2795 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 290 times:

Forgot to mention, the money said to be behind the airline seems to come from Switzerland - which might explain the "Swiss conncetion" etc.

User currently offlineDaV From Italy, joined Jun 2001, 669 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 284 times:

You were right on the rwy one! My apologies...

About the iguana... I've seen only the Italian site since I'm Italian... what I've reported is a translation from the Italian site! They simpli say that most of their flights are already booked out for animals, so it's suggested to call to be sure of animal-transport permission. I don't know what's inside the English pages... know I'll check out a bit.

DaV



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