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Why Do Fright Companies Want Widebodies?  
User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Posted (12 years 4 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1258 times:

I'm referring here to 'package' companies such as FedEx, UPS, and DHL, and Airborne, which, for example, don't normally have large loads (You don't see many folks shipping tractors via FedEx, I don't think).

It would seem to me, aerodynamically, what these companies would want would be something like a 757-500 hybrid freighter, which would be a 757 fuselage that was as long as a 767-400's sitting on the 764's wing.

Thoughts?

Steve


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User currently offlineSonic From Lithuania, joined Jan 2000, 1670 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1225 times:

I think widebodies are easier to load

User currently offlineMilemaster From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1063 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (12 years 4 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1220 times:

I just shipped 600 pounds of Cisco equipment to another office using Airborne Express today.

Small packages are the contrary.


User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1187 times:

But even 600 pounds of Cisco gear isn't large enough to require a widebody over a narrowbody. Typically, gear like that isn't more than 48" on each edge. Eagle Logistics only has 727's, IIRC, and they ship tons of stuff for EMC and Network Appliance that are bigger and heavier.

Steve


User currently offlineTechRep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1174 times:

When Airborne Express was interested in slowly phasing out the DC-8 the B767 and DC-10 were the two frames that they considered. The B767 and the DC-8-63 can haul about the same weight, however the B767 has half the fuel burn and one less crewmember than the DC-8, for a four-hour leg. Fuel costs were the determining factor in going with the B767.

TechRep


User currently offlineFedExIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1154 times:

It's total load. Even though FedEx doesn't haul huge items, it still needs the room of a widebody.

User currently offlineJumbojettim From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 4 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1147 times:

I work for FedEx, and even though most boxes are small in size, the DC-10 that comes into SAN is filled for the most part, every morning. The station that I work at gets on average 3,000 boxes every morning, and we are the smallest of 4 stations in San Diego. To sum it up, freight companies use the widebodies because they have the capacity. FedEx didn't sign an agreement to purchase the A380 because it looks cool.

Later


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1143 times:

Singapore Airlines Cargo, a wholly owned subsidiary of Singapore Airlines Limited, a wholly owned subsidiary of Singapore Airlines Group, operates the Boeing 747-400F because of it's ability to carry lots of cargo and it's range.


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User currently offlineSxmarbury33 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 4 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1130 times:

I think also because they can put a lot of small pakages in a pallette for faster load and unload time.

User currently offlineUPS Pilot From United States of America, joined May 1999, 871 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1105 times:

You would be very surprised!!!

While UPS doesn't haul much heavy freight such as "Tractors", UPS does haul alot of parcels. These tend to bulk out the aircraft more than reaching mtow. This is why the need for wide bodies is there for UPS at main gateways.


User currently offlineGmonney From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2159 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (12 years 4 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1086 times:

I actually had a conversation with our delivery person from purolator, he says there are 47 aircraft flying in Canada for purolator and 1 for fedex, the rest of the fedex are going to the states......well what ever. I told him that I like fedex because of the aircraft choice they have made!!! Purolator uses little aircraft.....!!!

I think the operating cost are the same if you choose a A300 or a 757, it still takes a lot to get the aircraft airborne, fuel......etc and why not have the room when you need it......these days there is so much being shipped, I wouldn't be surprised if most of the aircraft are full!!! Would fedex still be in business if they had empty aircraft? They are really sucessful, and if they have orders for the A380....you do the math.....good question, but could be better phrased

Grant




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User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4627 posts, RR: 36
Reply 11, posted (12 years 4 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1071 times:

Isn't it obvious? Why does McDonalds use Semi trucks? I mean burgers aren't very big??  Nuts

However many burgers nessecitates(sp?) the use of a large semi. Same rules



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