John From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 6 Posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1505 times:
Don't I know it! I'm a customer service agent, or should I say, WAS, at PBI. I was furloughed this week, after 18 years of service! SAD! PBI is going down to 10 mainline, 3 Express, on the April 8th schedule. Last year at this time, PBI had 23 mainline/MetroJet departures. It ain't over yet, either. Our sister station in FLL, is reducing to 16 flights in June, down from a peak of 36 flights last year, from 24, currently. And this is the clincher, TPA, once one of USAirways' largest stations, is being reduced to just 18 mainline departures in June. MCO service will also be dramatically curtailed. With all those airplanes being parked and none to replace them, since most of the Airbus deliveries have been deferred, with the exception of the remaining A321 orders, 9 airplanes total, I guess the inevitable has to happen. Total active fleet, 329 airplanes, as of April 1st. Less planes, less employees. Who'd ever think that I'd have to be put in this position, at this point in my career? Am I bitter? That answer is a resounding, YES!!
Usairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3234 posts, RR: 7 Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1345 times:
sorry to hear you were furloughed. i dont know usairways continues to show rapid signs of bankruptcy. i wonder who will step in to pick up the load that usairways dropped. i know there is a great demand on the phl-florida routes and i am sure the same can go for the other hubs.
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8818 posts, RR: 12 Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1330 times:
I have also noticed the downturn of US Airways operations shrinking from New England to Florida. Last year at this time, Boston was able to support an American 767-200, 7 Delta Express 737-200s, and I believe 5-7 US Airways 737-200s (opb MetroJet). Now, we are down to 2x American 737-800 and 7x Delta Express 737-200. At MHT and BDL, I know there was service to MCO on the weekends, and apparently Southwest has picked up the slack. Sorry to hear about your furlough.
Skyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1254 times:
Sorry to hear about your furlough. I know here in Dayton US has trashed most of their operations as well.(which is sad because it used to be a Piedmont hub) Post 9/11 US shutdown it's RES center here in DAY as well. Hope the future for you is brighter than this.
Lowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1206 times:
John: try to get hired at AirTran. They are hiring a bunch of people right now, and I've heard that they are short-staffed in a couple Florida stations. They actually talk to the employee unions to work things out. Just look at what they did after 9/11 compared to AA, US, UA, etc.
Delta777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 654 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1169 times:
So sorry to hear about your lay-off. I have noticed how many changes have been going on at US Airways and perticularly PIT. by the year end I bet the whole A concourse will be US Airways Express. less and less jets. It`s so sad to see a great airline like US Airways go down.
GD727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 925 posts, RR: 11 Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1120 times:
Us Airways isn't just shrinking in Florida, it's shrinking everywhere! Ever since 9-11 and the closing of Metrojet, they have been going down the toilet. Up here in New England, they are slowing down operations at BOS, PVD, MHT ect..
John- Good luck finding a new airline job. I suggest giving WN a try.
Chepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6095 posts, RR: 11 Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1111 times:
I'm so sorry that you lost your job. I can't imagine MCO hardly having US Airways aircraft, eventhough not the biggest airline at MCO but they are still a big player. Do you have any more info on the cutbacks at Orlando.
Usairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3234 posts, RR: 7 Reply 13, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1076 times:
that is because delta express still hasnt come back to full operation. once they start pulling back their 732's from the temporary desert storage, i am sure they will add flts into bdl.
i was looking at usairways schedules and i noticed that usairways is cutting a good number of florida flts from phl, it looked like it was around 5 to 10 flts.
Mah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31722 posts, RR: 72 Reply 14, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1072 times:
Afitch7881, don't forget AA's popular daily MIA-BDL service. With AA's upcoming expansion at MIA to 330 daily flights in the next 4 years, thrice-daily MIA-BDL service would not surprise me (3x daily is the norm for AA @ MIA).
Lowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 994 times:
TNNH: I'm guessing that you took those flights over the weekend. Most flights were packed then. It was a very busy travel day due to 2 types of spring breaks out. The schools who have it the last week of March, and the schools who have it the week before Easter.
DCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4418 posts, RR: 35 Reply 20, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 962 times:
Sorry to hear about your layoff, John. I'd echo the advice above; look to one of the airlines expanding in Florida, or with the airport. Air travel to Florida will remain strong, but it will be on other airlines.
Florida just doesn't make sense for US Airways anymore. Even high-fare purgatories like ROC and SYR have lots of low-fare service to Florida nowadays. With its 14-cent CSM's, US Airways can't compete in a market where airlines with 7-cent and 7.5-cent CSM's are becoming dominant.
John From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 6 Reply 21, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 919 times:
Thank you all for your advice and support, it's truly appreciated. Also, If I were to consider a job with AirTran or Southwest, starting from the bottom would NOT be an option for me. With all my experience and Ground Security qualifications, I'm certainly worth more and deserve better than $8.00 hr! That would be an insult.
DCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4418 posts, RR: 35 Reply 23, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 886 times:
That's a disadvantage of the heavy unionization of the airline industry. Everything is about seniority. That's a 1930's-era model that assumes one works for the same employer all one's life. In today's economy, that old assumption, sadly, is out the window.
From what you've described, John, it sounds like your skills are indeed worth more than introductory wages. If it weren't for the rigidity of collective bargaining, you could approach an airline and *negotiate your own package* based upon what you have to offer the airline.
But the system as it is, ramrods new employees into starting wages, whatever their skills.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7860 posts, RR: 5 Reply 24, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 858 times:
With your experience, I still highly recommend you get your resume to both AirTran and Southwest. You will definitely get more than US$9/hour in wages with your type of experience, that's to be sure. You might want to consider joining JetBlue and working out of their FLL operations, too.
I think at the rate things are going Florida will be dominated by AirTran, Delta and Southwest for regional flights, with American Airlines and JetBlue Airways for longer flights.
You should consider yourself very lucky that because you worked at PBI, you have the option to join AirTran, Southwest or JetBlue at PBI or FLL with reasonably short commutes from home.