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USAirways Florida Operations Shrinking Fast..  
User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1687 times:

Don't I know it! I'm a customer service agent, or should I say, WAS, at PBI. I was furloughed this week, after 18 years of service! SAD! Sad PBI is going down to 10 mainline, 3 Express, on the April 8th schedule. Last year at this time, PBI had 23 mainline/MetroJet departures. It ain't over yet, either. Our sister station in FLL, is reducing to 16 flights in June, down from a peak of 36 flights last year, from 24, currently. And this is the clincher, TPA, once one of USAirways' largest stations, is being reduced to just 18 mainline departures in June. MCO service will also be dramatically curtailed. With all those airplanes being parked and none to replace them, since most of the Airbus deliveries have been deferred, with the exception of the remaining A321 orders, 9 airplanes total, I guess the inevitable has to happen. Total active fleet, 329 airplanes, as of April 1st. Less planes, less employees. Who'd ever think that I'd have to be put in this position, at this point in my career? Am I bitter? That answer is a resounding, YES!!

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User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3473 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1527 times:

sorry to hear you were furloughed. i dont know usairways continues to show rapid signs of bankruptcy. i wonder who will step in to pick up the load that usairways dropped. i know there is a great demand on the phl-florida routes and i am sure the same can go for the other hubs.

User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1512 times:

I have also noticed the downturn of US Airways operations shrinking from New England to Florida. Last year at this time, Boston was able to support an American 767-200, 7 Delta Express 737-200s, and I believe 5-7 US Airways 737-200s (opb MetroJet). Now, we are down to 2x American 737-800 and 7x Delta Express 737-200. At MHT and BDL, I know there was service to MCO on the weekends, and apparently Southwest has picked up the slack. Sorry to hear about your furlough.

Jeff


User currently offlineLindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3131 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1471 times:
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I flew USAirways to and from Tampa last weekend. I have to admit, there did seem to be a bit of empty gate space... Best of luck to you, John.

User currently offlineCmk10 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 513 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1446 times:

Hey im really sorry about that, did you get any kind of a severance packadge? If you are interested, up north at BOS, PVD and EWR Southwest is hiring.
DC-10's Forever



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User currently offlineSkyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1436 times:

John,

Sorry to hear about your furlough. I know here in Dayton US has trashed most of their operations as well.(which is sad because it used to be a Piedmont hub) Post 9/11 US shutdown it's RES center here in DAY as well. Hope the future for you is brighter than this.

Regards
Chris


User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1410 times:

Yea, I have a nice severance package, thankfully, so if there CAN be anything positive from this, this will carry me over, for awhile.

User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1388 times:

John: try to get hired at AirTran. They are hiring a bunch of people right now, and I've heard that they are short-staffed in a couple Florida stations. They actually talk to the employee unions to work things out. Just look at what they did after 9/11 compared to AA, US, UA, etc.

User currently offlineDelta777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 658 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1351 times:

So sorry to hear about your lay-off. I have noticed how many changes have been going on at US Airways and perticularly PIT. by the year end I bet the whole A concourse will be US Airways Express.  Sad less and less jets. It`s so sad to see a great airline like US Airways go down.  Sad

D E L T A 7 7 7


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1326 times:

Definetly check out WN or even the Airport Authorities which run PBI or FLL, with your experience you stand an excellent chance in their CSR departments..

Best of luck.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineGD727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 925 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1302 times:


Us Airways isn't just shrinking in Florida, it's shrinking everywhere! Ever since 9-11 and the closing of Metrojet, they have been going down the toilet. Up here in New England, they are slowing down operations at BOS, PVD, MHT ect..

John- Good luck finding a new airline job. I suggest giving WN a try.

-GD727



Mmmm forbidden donut.
User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6234 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1293 times:

I'm so sorry that you lost your job. I can't imagine MCO hardly having US Airways aircraft, eventhough not the biggest airline at MCO but they are still a big player. Do you have any more info on the cutbacks at Orlando.
Chepos



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User currently offlineAfitch7881 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 816 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1269 times:

Hartford- Florida is a huge market. Last year with Metro jet it was this.

BDL-MCO Metro jet 3X dailt
BDL-MCO Delta 5X daily
BDL-MCO Southwest 1X daily

BDL-FLL Metro jet 1X daily
BDL-FLL Delta 3X daily

BDL-PBI Metro jet 1X daily
BDL-PBI Delta 3X daily

BDL-TPA Metro 2X daily
BDL-TPA Delta 1X daily


Now....

BDL-MCO 4X delta, 2X Southwest

BDL-FLL 3X delta

BDL-PBI 3x delta

BDL-TPA 2x delta, 1X southwest


The loss of Metro jet hasnt been picked up by Delta or Southwest that much.


User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3473 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1258 times:

that is because delta express still hasnt come back to full operation. once they start pulling back their 732's from the temporary desert storage, i am sure they will add flts into bdl.
i was looking at usairways schedules and i noticed that usairways is cutting a good number of florida flts from phl, it looked like it was around 5 to 10 flts.


User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33278 posts, RR: 71
Reply 14, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1254 times:

Afitch7881, don't forget AA's popular daily MIA-BDL service. With AA's upcoming expansion at MIA to 330 daily flights in the next 4 years, thrice-daily MIA-BDL service would not surprise me (3x daily is the norm for AA @ MIA).


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User currently offlineAfitch7881 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 816 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1244 times:

BDL-MIA wouldnt suprise me either to twice daily. 3 time daily in summer wouldnt be bad either with a decent amount of caribean traffic from BDL.

Back a few years ago BDL-MIA use to be 3 times daily, and actually was a A300 on some flight too.


User currently offlineAer777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1235 times:

They seemed pretty busy to me.


All my planes were pretty full.

A great flight.


User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1194 times:

Yeah I just got off a LGA-PIT-CDG and a CDG-PHL and dude, all those flights were jam packed.

Anyway, should I be using up my Divident Miles??

TNNH

PS: John, look for jobs with JetBlue or Airtran, big growth!


User currently offlineAer777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1176 times:

I wouldnt go that far.

Look at TWA.

USAirways is like any other airline. Sometimes they have great years and other times it is difficult.

There are several airlines including CONTINENTAL that have rebounded and become better than ever.

I think USAirways weakness is its EAST COAST base.
Seems to be a curse. But its not USAirways fault.

Their planes are clean and nice.


User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1176 times:

TNNH: I'm guessing that you took those flights over the weekend. Most flights were packed then. It was a very busy travel day due to 2 types of spring breaks out. The schools who have it the last week of March, and the schools who have it the week before Easter.

User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4528 posts, RR: 34
Reply 20, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1144 times:

Sorry to hear about your layoff, John. I'd echo the advice above; look to one of the airlines expanding in Florida, or with the airport. Air travel to Florida will remain strong, but it will be on other airlines.

Florida just doesn't make sense for US Airways anymore. Even high-fare purgatories like ROC and SYR have lots of low-fare service to Florida nowadays. With its 14-cent CSM's, US Airways can't compete in a market where airlines with 7-cent and 7.5-cent CSM's are becoming dominant.

Jim



Need a new airline paint scheme? Better call Saul! (Bass that is)
User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1101 times:

Thank you all for your advice and support, it's truly appreciated. Also, If I were to consider a job with AirTran or Southwest, starting from the bottom would NOT be an option for me. With all my experience and Ground Security qualifications, I'm certainly worth more and deserve better than $8.00 hr! That would be an insult.

User currently offlinePhatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1363 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1087 times:

John:
It is better to work for such a wage than not having a job at all.


User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4528 posts, RR: 34
Reply 23, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1068 times:

That's a disadvantage of the heavy unionization of the airline industry. Everything is about seniority. That's a 1930's-era model that assumes one works for the same employer all one's life. In today's economy, that old assumption, sadly, is out the window.

From what you've described, John, it sounds like your skills are indeed worth more than introductory wages. If it weren't for the rigidity of collective bargaining, you could approach an airline and *negotiate your own package* based upon what you have to offer the airline.

But the system as it is, ramrods new employees into starting wages, whatever their skills.

Jim



Need a new airline paint scheme? Better call Saul! (Bass that is)
User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8034 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1040 times:

John,

With your experience, I still highly recommend you get your resume to both AirTran and Southwest. You will definitely get more than US$9/hour in wages with your type of experience, that's to be sure. You might want to consider joining JetBlue and working out of their FLL operations, too.

I think at the rate things are going Florida will be dominated by AirTran, Delta and Southwest for regional flights, with American Airlines and JetBlue Airways for longer flights.

You should consider yourself very lucky that because you worked at PBI, you have the option to join AirTran, Southwest or JetBlue at PBI or FLL with reasonably short commutes from home.


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