UALfa@jfk From United States of America, joined May 2000, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2662 times:
It's completely the pilot's option to turn Channel 9 on for passengers to hear. They are not at all obligated to offer it on any of their flights.
Many pilots love to offer it all the time. Some only some of the time. And still, some never like to offer it. It's up to the individual pilot. One pilot told me he only offers it when it seems to be mostly "nice passengers" aboard. If the plane is filled with a bunch of spoiled, demanding assholes, he said he deliberately makes Channel 9 unavailable. --All of this is completely his choice.
Channel 9 is available on all widebody and narrowbody UA aircraft (as long is the general passenger audio system is working, which it usuallly is).
As an FA, I can attest that a lot of pax absolutely LOVE Channel 9. Especially kids and senior citizens. Everyone seems to really get a kick out of it, especially during taxi at very busy airports such as ORD, LAX, LGA, ATL, SFO, or MIA.
Everytime I make the announcement, "Ladies and Gentlemen, if interested, you may listen in on cockpit-to- tower control communications on Channel 9 of your audio system...Please feel free to use your complimentary United headset found in the seat pocket in front of you," it's funny to see everyone reaching for their headsets at the same time.
Also, one BIG benefit I see is that in the event of some ATC delay, pax can hear FOR THEMSELVES, the actual air traffic controllers informing the cockpit of the delay. --That way, pax (being usually so skeptical) know that the the ground "delay" isn't a lie made up by the pilots.
United_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7636 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2612 times:
Nice to hear from you again-UALfa@jfk !
I just got back Monday from MIA on UA and the A320 had it on the whole way. The 763 from IAD to MIA didn't-and I didn't want to bother the f/a 's because they looked busy and the plane was FULL! It's good to see full planes nowdays,too.
I've even heard the captain announce ch #9's availability a few times.Sometimes a f/a will announce it but not always-wonder why ? Also to any UA f/a's out there-why is there inconsistencies on announcements like Mileage + miles and joining and M+ ? I don't always hear this mentioned. Oh well-
Also,UA doesn't have any 732's anyore,NW-ELITE - all went away on Nov 1 st . So unless you fly UA Express there's a chance you might get ch 9- though I think 747's it's ch 14.
'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
UALfa@jfk From United States of America, joined May 2000, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2564 times:
Hi United Fan. Rest assured I'm here VERRY frequently. Usually lurking, without posting.
You're right about inconsistent announcements from FAs. but actually, we have a lot flexibility regarding what what to announce. It kinda depends on the the type of flight, passenger mix (number of Mileage Plus members versus a bunch of vacationers), passenger load, and flight time.
Regarding Channel 9, I sometimes simply forget to announce that it's on. But just the other day, on my ORD-MSP leg, the Captain explicitedly asked me to NOT announce anything about Channel 9 because he intended to turn it off and on periodically. (Sometimes the cockpit requests that we don't mention it at all, even if they do decide to turn it on.)
Regarding other announcements (such as ff mileage, etc), a lot of pax complain that we FAs simply "talk too much" over the PA. Therefore, I try to be as conscience as possible in not making too many announcements.
If you're ever on one of my flights, this is the sequence of what you'll likely hear after we take off and are airborne:
1) A hearty welcome for our Mileage Plus freq. fliers, icluding the number of miles they'll earn for this flight. (as well as a welcome to everyone else).
2) The type of service to expect (beverages & cocktail snacks, continental breakfast, a "lite" snack, or hot dinner)...."A complete guide to the beverages we offer should be located on page 79 of this month's issue of United's award-wining Hemispheres inflight magazine..."
3) Type of inflight entertainment..."On your flight today, we'll be happy to present to you NBC News, Television Sitcoms, documentaries, and other popular broadcasting" (or whatever movie we're to show). "...Please locate your complimentary United headset in the seatpocket in front of you...Audio for the inflight entertainment can be found on Channel 1."
4) A reminder about the seat belt sign, lavatory locations, no-smoking policy.
5) A reminder about exercising caution when retrieving articles in the overhead bins.
6) A final announcement..."Ladies & gentlemen, if there's anything we can do to make your travel experience more enjoyable, please do not hesitate to call on any one of us.
7) "Now just sit back, relax and enjoy your 2 hour, 42 minute flight to Chicago O'hare. Welcome aboard."
(I often wonder if I'm too wordy with my announcements).
TonyBurr From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2480 times:
I really like channel 9. It allows me to hear how long the taxing, landing, etc may be. It keeps me in touch with what is going on. UALFA@JFK - ur's sounds like a nice announcement. I have enver found a FA announcements too much. I generally enjoy them. Most FA are great people and it comes across!
Continental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5557 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2440 times:
I remember back in 98' on a UA 737 going from MSP-ORD, we were delayed due to bad weather, and the pilot told us to tune to channel 9 because we could listen to what's going on. Sure enough, there was live ATC and everything, it was amazing!
RogueTrader From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2400 times:
I rarely get to fly UA, but I think ch. 9 is great. The last time I flew them to DEN, other aircraft were describing braking as poor to non-existent in the snow. Also, there were a few mistakes like ATC calling United 1286 instead of 1268, that were immediately clarified. So, I can see that maybe some things might be heard would disturb some passengers.
Is this why some of the pilots described above might turn off Ch. 9? And why would some turn it on and off throughout the flight? - that sounds just annoying. Have there ever been problems on board with customers going into panic about what they heard?
ThirtyEcho From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 1719 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2374 times:
I recall that American had a similar feature quite a while ago but then stopped it for some reason. Personally, I love 9 and listen to it for the whole flight. Being instrument rated, I have had occasions where I was asked by my seatmates to explain something; people seem the most stumped by a flight being called a "heavy." I once heard a know-it-all type explain to his wife that the pilot had to say that until enough fuel was burned off to make the plane lighter.
N79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2311 times:
I think Channel 9 distinguishes UA. The one time I was really lost while listening was during LAX-HNL on a 742. I have my pilot's license but I know nothing about extended overwater navigation. The crew kept in contact with SFO center to confirm their location enroute. It was very interesting to hear but I wish knew more.
I am also surprised that other airlines do not offer this feature. It is very entertaining but it is also harmless. There is more danger from people with handheld receivers on the ground.
UALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2304 times:
I have been flying UA since I was a kid. My father worked for UA before me. Channel 9 has been on UA since the 70's, that's when I first heard it, maybe since the introduction of the audio systems to the cabin. All UA planes except those without audio have the channel. And as has been stated the pilot can turnit on or off at their disgression. I always ask as I board if the Captain will have it on.
I listen to channel 9 almost exclusivly. It does get a bit boring in the middle of the flight just listening to Center. on the ground or just before landing it is a real treat. I have figured out where MDT ends and PHL begins by listening for the change of radio frequency. (BTW for those of you flying to PHL from points west, its about Pottstown)
Travelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3600 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2267 times:
Sometimes you hear some interesting stuff on channel 9! Last summer I was on a United flight into Denver. As we were on Approach to DEN, we heard the pilot of the plane behind us say they had been struck by lightning! The controller asked if everything was OK, and the pilot said yeah, no need for emergency equipment or anything.
Also last summer (again, going to Denver), I was listening to channel 9 during take-off, when the left engine on our 777 blew and we had to abort take-off. ALL of the emergency equipment came out and the pilot was asking the tower if any smoke or flame was coming out from anywhere. The tower also had to instruct other planes waiting for our runway that they would have to use Runway 25L for take-off. The pilot never turned off Channel 9, even in an emergency! (They had to close Runway 25R at LAX while the emergency crews checked us out and they towed us back to a gate).
If all else is equal (price, etc.) I will choose United just for Channel 9!
Konrad From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 567 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2267 times:
Channel 9 on UA is a great feature, I used to listen to it on their 737s fligths. Greatest fun was listening to taxiing instructions at a busy airport, say ORD or the approach into ORD.
Unfortunately right now only United Express CRJs are flying into my city, do they have the audio entertainment at all ?
Anyway, thanks for Channel 9, United !
I recently flew USAir into Gatwick on one of their old 767s. I was amazed to find an ATC channel on my audio. It must have been switched on by mistake since it was working only on one headset (the flight was empty and I had two seats for myself).
It was switched on and working during the whole flight and it was fun to know what other flights were heading east across the pond at the same time. Unfortunately the FAs collected the headsets before the landing so I couldn't get an idea of the british ATC.
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: N79969: the following page has some information about international and overwater flight ops. http://www.tech.purdue.edu/at/courses/at300/course%20mat