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Photo Of Air China Onboard Dinner  
User currently offlineCarnoc From China, joined Oct 2001, 875 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3302 times:

The photo taken by Civil Aviation Resource Net of China (CARNOC) forum's registered user -- Boeing 744; Details written by Airliners.net forum's registered user --CARNOC. Copyright protected!

The following photo (you need to click hyperlink, thanks) shows Air China flight CA922 (on 5 March, 2002 and Shanghai -- Beijing section) economy class passengers' dinner. On CA922 (Shanghai -- Beijing section), there were two types of dinner meals could be selected by economy class passengers and the below picture shows one of them.

http://www.carnoc.com/bbs3000/image/list/upphoto9615.jpg

According to the above picture and information from Air China officer, dinner goods are listed below:

Hot Meal: Soya chicken rice plus rape (a European plant with yellow flowers, grown as animal food and for the oil produced from its seeds, and it is edible)

Others: Sauced cucumber with ham plus roasted tomato; Bread with ANCHOR butter (New Zealand-produced)

Fruit: Watermelon

Drinks: Spring Water, Coca-Cola, Sprite, Fanta, Orange Juice, Apple Juice, Coffee, Chinese Tea and many more...

34 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineTNboy From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 1131 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3068 times:

I'll probably be flying this sector in a few months, so dinner will be...interesting. Actually it's not too different to many other carriers' domestic offerings. Tell me, does the extensive range of beverages actually stretch to something a bit more interesting, like beer or wine??
Bill



"...every aircraft is subtly different.."
User currently offlineCarnoc From China, joined Oct 2001, 875 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3020 times:

Firstly, thanks for your reply.

At the moment, I'm unsure abou your question, but I heard from some Chinese airline carriers officers said that they will probably prepare to add beer and wine on some flights for passengers, but it may costs you some cash unless you're going to fly on First or Business class.


User currently offlineTNboy From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 1131 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3007 times:

Paying for alcohol in Y on domestic carriers is fine - it's just nice to know it's available, especially on a dinner flight. Hopefully they will supply local products as well as international.
Thanks for the quick response, and good luck to Air China in its efforts to upgrade meals.
Bill



"...every aircraft is subtly different.."
User currently offlineCarnoc From China, joined Oct 2001, 875 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2992 times:

Once again, thanks for your regard to Air China.

In fact, China's carriers offered alcohol products on their domestic flights before, but there were some passengers drank too much and caused some serious cases, so most of Chinese airline carriers stops to offer beer and wine.

However, there're some permitted domestic flights are still operating alcohol nowadays and most Chinese carriers prepares to add this service soon.


User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2936 times:

I flew on Air China last year from Beijing to Nanchang and back and the dinners were just about exactly like the picture. I liked it very much, but my Chinese-born colleague did not think much of it.

One of the planes, by the way, was a brand new 737-800 -- although 100% full, it turned out to be a very pleasant 2-hour flight. The f/a's were busy, but very friendly and attentive.

Incidentally, my opinion of China has really changed since that trip -- for the better.

Pete


User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1518 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2913 times:

I hope one day CA get to fly internationally into Taiwan (as well as other mainland Chinese airlines). How far away are we from that day, Carnoc?

Jimmy

Man if this happens I'll be booking myself on the very very first flight of the Taiwan-China nonstop route! Witnessing history!



User currently offlineCarnoc From China, joined Oct 2001, 875 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2888 times:

Delta-flyer, after I saw your reply, I called my friends who are currently working for Air China as cabin crews and they proved that the meal (as picture shows) operated for at least 8 years or even more, but as you said that passengers sends their good comment on it to Air China, so that Soya Chicken meal are still operating on Air China flights as specialised dinner meal for all three classes' passengers.

Air Taiwan, it is really nice to see your post. You said that you wish we could see each others' airline flights to operate service between China and Taiwan. I hope it could becomes true earlier and earlier.

I have many Taiwanese friends, everytime they come to China, they have to fly to Hong Kong or Macao first, it wastes a lot of time and money. Why could not we have direct operations between China and Taiwan?

Anyway, I'm just waiting for the day that first flight to operate between China and Taiwan.

In fact, there is an interesting post in Civil Aviation Resource Net of China's forum about direct service between China and Taiwan and some related things. If your browser could visit Mandarin, welcome to have a look. The web address is http://www.carnoc.com (CARNOC Homepage) or http://www.carnoc.com/bbs.htm (CARNOC BBS Homepage)


User currently offlineAirbus_A340 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2881 times:

That looks yummy! (from a semi-Chinese person's point of view) I am glad Air China are making efforts to improve on-board food. Will they be improving the in-flight entertainment anytime soon?
Thanks for sharing that with us by the way!  Smile

Trevor



People. They make an airline. www.cathaypacific.com
User currently offlineCarnoc From China, joined Oct 2001, 875 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2870 times:

Thanks for your post firstly.

At the moment, Air China is trying to improve its newest jets inflight entertainment system on First Class and Business Class, they're adding PTVs, improving inflight reading materials, adding audio channels (this improvement is also available on some jets' Economy Class). Also, Air China reset First Class and Business Class seats on some aircrafts just to give passengers more space.

However, because the expenses of improving inflight entertainment system on their jets, Air China will not add PTVs and some other entertainment articles on Economy Class of most Air China's aircrafts!


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2842 times:

Looks like your standard airline meal !!

User currently offlineCarnoc From China, joined Oct 2001, 875 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2830 times:

Thanks for your interested in my post, but I don't clearly understand your reply.

What you mean? You mean Air China's meal is disgusting or you mean something else?

Could you just please explain your meaning to me, thanks!

Also, for a carrier like Air China, I do think the food is OK enough for economy class passengers on a domestic flight (the picture was took on a flight from Shanghai to Beijing).

As a frequent flyer in Asia-Pacific region, I personally think that Air China onboard catering service is even better than some well-known carriers' domestic catering service such as Qantas Airways etc.

However, I agree that Air China could not compare with Singapore Airlines, Malaysia Airlines, Japan Airlines, Cathay Pacific Airways and those more advanced carriers, but Air China is doing hard to improving its meals for passengers.


User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2822 times:

Carnoc.... the meal was excellent, especially considering it was on a domestic flight. It may look like airline food (and why not, it has to fit on a tray!), but it tasted really good. Don't listen to the distractors!

Pete


User currently offlineCarnoc From China, joined Oct 2001, 875 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2816 times:

Thanks for your support!

The meal is successful for more than 8 years on Air China's flights and it actually indicates that the food is great and it also tastes good!

As I saw the picture again, I just want to get on an Air China's flight right now, because I haven't experienced its service for almost three months!


User currently offlineJAL From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 5083 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2779 times:

Doesn't look very tasty, then again airline foods are never delicious anyway!


Work Hard But Play Harder
User currently offlineCarnoc From China, joined Oct 2001, 875 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2728 times:

For different persons, everyone has the different taste.

As you said, maybe you don't like this meal, that's your opinion, I could not deny anything.

However, as my personal experience, Air China sometimes offers high quality meals to its Economy Class passengers, even once I found that its domestic service was better than all other international carriers I've flown with, inclu. SIA (surely reduced quality within the last half year), JAL, MAS and others which people think are outstanding standard airlines.

Also, as I said in the earlier posts, the meal is successful for more than 8 years on Air China's flights and it actually indicates that the food is great and it also tastes good.

However, I know that there are improvements for Air China and I'm not working for Air China at all, but Air China could get the highest public supports nationwide in China (according to the newest survey powered by CAAC), because it is China's flag carrier, it has one of the top safety records in world's airline industry and it is the airline knows what is the future if they don't work hard to attract more passengers and improve Air China's service standard.


User currently offlineSamurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2458 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2720 times:

I've never flown on any Asian carrier, so I can't really comment on how their food tastes.

However, I can say that the meal in the picture looks good to eat - and it does indeed look more heaped with food than some Western carriers I've been on.

Is the sauced cucumber spicy? It looks a lot like what I had with salmon marinated with Indonesian soy sauce in a popular restaurant chain in Western Canada. The whole thing, cucumber with the salmon is one of my favorite meals from that restaurant.

I hope Air China will one day soon be ranked with the same good reputation the great airlines like Cathay Pacific and Singapore Airlines have.


User currently offlineCarnoc From China, joined Oct 2001, 875 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2708 times:

Samurai777, thanks for your interesting reply.

As you questioned, I did ask some passengers who were on that flight and they told me that the sauced cucumber is just a little bit spicy, I reckon that most Chinese passengers could not accept foods which are really spicy.


User currently offlineRogueTrader From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2712 times:

does the extensive range of beverages actually stretch to something a bit more interesting, like beer or wine

TNboy, why do you have to taint every thread with your obsessive preoccupation with alcohol?

The meal looks fine to me. In the USA, we don't get meals in economy any more. Soon, we probably will not have seats either, so, Air China is already superior in terms of inflight service than American carriers.

kind regards,

RogueTrader

TNboy - I'm monitoring you.


User currently offlineTNboy From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 1131 posts, RR: 19
Reply 19, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2705 times:

RT: I'll drink to that!
Bill



"...every aircraft is subtly different.."
User currently offlineAduum From Australia, joined Sep 2000, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2690 times:

Hahahahah!
good one


User currently offlineCarnoc From China, joined Oct 2001, 875 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2689 times:

Thank you and I'm glad to see your post here.

I know that a lot of western carriers stops to offer onboard catering service for cutting their costs.

However, in China, the Civil Aviation Administration of China (CAAC) regulation says that for all flights' flying time within 1 hour, carriers should operates economy class passengers a pack of peanuts (could be other snacks) plus at least 6 choices of drinks (for domestic flights), more than 8 choices of drinks (for international flights);

For all flights' flying time between 1 hour 30 minutes and 2 hours, carriers should serves cakes (muffins, sandwichs, breads or other similar foods) to all economy class passengers and at least 6 choices of drinks (for domestic flights), more than 8 choices of drinks (for international flights);

For all flights' flying time between 2 hour 30 minutes and 3 hours, carriers must offers at least 1 hot meal on economy class and at least 6 choices of drinks (for domestic flights), more than 8 choices of drinks (for international flights);

For all flights' flying time more than 6 hours, carriers must serves two hot meals to all economy class passengers and at least 6 choices of drinks (for domestic flights), more than 8 choices of drinks (for international flights);

However, the above regulation is only effective for all China-based airline carriers, it is not necessary for foreign airlines (inclu. HK [SAR], Macao [SAR] carriers) who serves China. Also, there're also a few exceptions for Chinese carriers about this regulation.

Also, as I know, Air China is now also testing to operate three types of meals for its Economy Class passengers.

On Air China's flight CA929 (Tokyo -- Shanghai sector), sometimes Economy Class passengers could have three choices. As some Air China's cabin crews told me that three choices are traditional Japanese food, western-style chicken rice plus fresh vegatables, western-style beef rice plus fresh vegatables, all those three choices offers fruit (usually watermelon), salad and more than several drinking choices (inclu. beer and sometimes wine).


User currently offlineTNboy From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 1131 posts, RR: 19
Reply 22, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2675 times:

Thanks Carnoc. Interesting that it's state regulated.
Bill



"...every aircraft is subtly different.."
User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1518 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2664 times:

Hi Carnoc, can you please email me. I want to discuss some things with you but I'm not sure if I want to email to the "CARNOC" email address in your profile... it's to an organisation...

Thanks,

Jimmy


User currently offlineCarnoc From China, joined Oct 2001, 875 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2656 times:

You could send Emails to emanager@carnoc.com and I will be able to receive your Emails.

25 Ryanair!!! : Hey, that sure looks better than pretzels! How often do you get food like that on domestic flights in the US huh? Nil!
26 Post contains links Carnoc : A few days ago, I edited a new flyer (please click link below) for Air China, it uses several images designed by Air China IT Department. http://home.
27 Air Taiwan : carnoc, i can't see the pic!!
28 Post contains links Carnoc : Air Taiwan, thanks for your reply. I've just deleted the picture from the old address I mentioned before. Now, please visit http://home.iprimus.com.au
29 9V-SVE : The first and (maybe) the last time I flew Air China was back in June 1998. From Xian to Beijing. I was lucky enough to be the Business. I was too you
30 Arsenal@LHR : That meal description sounds tasty and the pic looks tasty aswell. All this on a Shanghai-Beijing flight? that's incredible! Good work by Air China! A
31 Carnoc : Firstly, thanks for your reply. However, on Shanghai -- Beijing route, Air China is not only operating that meal for economy passengers, there're seve
32 Post contains images Hkg82 : First of all, good to see Air China improving the meals onboard. I've never flown Air China but I've heard that they're pretty good servicewise. I agr
33 Carnoc : 9V-SVE, glad to see your post here. As you said, last time you flew with Air China was nearly 4 years ago and you were too young to remember things. H
34 Carnoc : Hkg82, once again, I'm pleased to see your reply. As you said, I actually wish to see someone launch direct service between China and Taiwan too and I
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