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Cracked Window On My Flight  
User currently offlineLuchtzak From Belgium, joined Dec 2001, 468 posts, RR: 8
Posted (12 years 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2275 times:

Today (Sunday 7/4/2002) I was on an easy flight back towards Brussels.

Suddenly the left window cracked, no worries, since that window contains several layers. (for the non-specialists)

This is normally due to overheating of the heating-elements on that window or due to a drop of water finding it's way trough the window and then freezes during flight if the heating elements don't fuction at all.

We had allready started our descent towards Brussels, anyway Captain decided to reduce speed (which sounded like a good idea  Smile/happy/getting dizzy ) Not that it endangered our flight but precautionary actions are sometimes better than taking no actions at all.

I want to share these photos with everybody who is interested because sometimes things like this can happen.


Pictures can be seen on :
http://community.webshots.com/album/35086348SVBweZ

Best regards
luchtzak
http://www.luchtzak.be

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User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5093 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2047 times:

Oh jesus! I was expecting a small tiny crack in the window! Lets just say if i was you, my pants would have been rather brown!!!


That'll teach you
User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2019 times:

Hey luchtzak,

Interesting pictures like always mate  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Correct me if I am wrong, but I remember me an emergency landing of an AR1 or an AR8 from Sevilla to Brussels with the same problem.

The pilot was at cruising altitude and had to make an emergency landing.

So it seems that this is not the first time that this happens with an Avro.

Regards,
Sabena 690


User currently offlineLuchtzak From Belgium, joined Dec 2001, 468 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1970 times:

@ Sabena 690

Indeed, I remember twice, one on flight to Amsterdam, the other one I don't know anymore.

@Nighthawk

If you're scared of something like this, you never should be a flight attendant or a pilot  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

best regards


User currently offlineAirDD From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1938 times:

Luchtzak,

Were you a pilot on this flight ?



User currently offlineLuchtzak From Belgium, joined Dec 2001, 468 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1932 times:

@ AirDD

No, that day I was a flight attendant  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

best regards


User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 45
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1830 times:

OK, even if I trusted the window, the sudden shattering and probably very audible crack like a gunshot probably would have scared the s*** out of me. This is why I am not a pilot or flight attendant.

Regards,
redngold



Up, up and away!
User currently offline737doctor From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1332 posts, RR: 40
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1806 times:

For those of you that are freaked out by this, it's pretty common. I've had to replace many cockpit windows in my time...

Great pictures though.



Patrick Bateman is my hero.
User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1759 times:

A little more then a crack !!

User currently offline242 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 498 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1699 times:

For those of you that are freaked out by this, it's pretty common. I've had to replace many cockpit windows in my time...

Yes, I've changed quite a few myself, not really that big of a deal. Those windows only can take so many heating cycles before they begin to arc, and shortly afterwards the outer layer of tempered glass spiderwebs.



User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3030 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1617 times:

So it seems that was an interesting flight...

by the way, did anybody of the passengers get a chance to see the cracks in the window? I wonder how some ignorant passengers would react, when they saw this...nex tmorning, you'd probably get headlines like 'aircraft almost crashed' or 'seconds from crash' or so  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Ivan



Ivan Coninx - Brussels Aviation Photography
User currently offlineLuchtzak From Belgium, joined Dec 2001, 468 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1504 times:

@ Apuneger

Passengers couldn't see it during the flight because cockpitdoor remains locked during the flight.

But maybe they could saw it getting on the bus after disembarkation.

Who will say?

best regards


User currently offlineLuzezito From Spain, joined May 2001, 268 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1492 times:

Although unlikely, what if both windows crack? Vision is greatly reduced!


Quoniam Vita Brevis Est, Propera!
User currently offlineOO-VEG From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 1081 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1476 times:

So if this happens during a TransAtlantlic flight. Would the flight be diverted or do those windows keep up for some few 1000 miles?

User currently offlineLuchtzak From Belgium, joined Dec 2001, 468 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1483 times:

Perform a CAT III (autoland) approach  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Best regards


User currently offlineParra From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1453 times:

If both windows cracked then I imagine it would be like flying in cloud or thick fog.

User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3030 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1418 times:

It sure would be a nice test to see how good you can perform low-visibility approaches  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

"Euh, Brussels approach, good afternoon. although ATIS Echo mentioned good visibility and no clouds, it seems we are experiencing some problems. Some strange clouds seem to 'fly' ahead of us, and are bothering the visibility out of our left windshield."

Oh boy, life is funny...(I just survived another trip to the dentist, you see Smile/happy/getting dizzy )

Ivan



Ivan Coninx - Brussels Aviation Photography
User currently offline242 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 498 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (12 years 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1371 times:

So if this happens during a TransAtlantlic flight. Would the flight be diverted or do those windows keep up for some few 1000 miles?

The outer layer of tempered glass accounts for less than 25% of the windshields thickness, so it's not really an emergency situation. A diversion, if agreed on by the captain, maintenance control and dispatch, would probably be due to icing conditions, since the heat to the affected window would be inop.



User currently offlineVC-10 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 1999, 3695 posts, RR: 35
Reply 18, posted (12 years 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1360 times:
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The outer ply is expendable. In fact on the 747 to procedure is to switch on the w/screen wiper to get rid of the ply & improve visibility.



User currently offlineLuzezito From Spain, joined May 2001, 268 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1310 times:

That is, of course, if you have that possibility with an equipped a/c and apt. Otherwise, would it mean big trouble?


Quoniam Vita Brevis Est, Propera!
User currently offlineLuchtzak From Belgium, joined Dec 2001, 468 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1233 times:

@ Luzezito

Don't think so, inner layers are much stronger, I guess...

best regards


User currently offlineCmk10 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 513 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1218 times:

I was once wating at Kilamanjaro, Tanzania Airport (KIL) and the KLM flight was delayed over 6 hours out of Amsterdam because the cockpit window shattered.
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