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Ex-AA 717: New Operators?  
User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4692 posts, RR: 43
Posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2035 times:

Hi everybody,
I tried to find information about this with the search engine, but there was none. So here goes my question:
Does anyone have an idea, how many of the former AA 717's have already been sold/ leased to new operators?

Maybe we can put together an overview.




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User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1854 times:

I believe that 6 or 8 ex-TWA(AA) 717s are in the process of being leased to Qantas Link. These particular airframes are owned by Pembroke Aviation. The other 22-24 717s arre owned by Boeing. No comfimation yet whether they will go to Midwest Express and/or Air Tran. Regards.


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User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4160 posts, RR: 36
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

24 of the AA Boeing B717-200 were leased from Boeing Capital, 6 from Penbroke. The six Pembroke aircraft have been leased to Qantas Link/Impulse starting this June, none of the 24 Boeing Capital ones has been placed to date.

This is somewhat a nightmare for Boeing as it has a big impact on the B717 production line which is already running below break-even as customers (or better: potential customers) could pick up the leased birds at lower prices much faster than new ones. Rumour is that Boeing will terminate production after frame 135.

Currently I don´t see any new customer for this bird as - probably - Midwest Express who still officially has to confirm its order.

Regards
Flying-Tiger
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User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1718 times:

I believe Northern Airlines/Destiny Airlines will be looking at the 717. Not sure if they'll be new or used or even if Northern/Destiny ever startsup.

Michael


User currently offline717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1661 times:

Northern Airlines is looking at 25 aircraft for startup in early 2004. IMO these will be new ones if Northern ever gets of the ground...

User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4692 posts, RR: 43
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1629 times:

Northern Airlines? never heard of them. I suppose they intend to become some sort of domestic US operator?



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User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1593 times:

Yes, based in Syracuse New York.

Michael


User currently offlineUvalencia From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1567 times:

I wish I could see some of those 717 replacing the aging Aeromexico's DC-9 but I guess that would not be a good decision in a long term basis since Boeing has decided to end the production.

Anyway, does Air Tran has ordered more 717, how many of them do they have?


User currently offline717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1554 times:

Uvalencia, you are wrong: Boeing has decided NOT to stop the production of the 717.
Regards, 717fan


User currently offlineBoeing in pdx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1506 times:

airtran has converted 10 options to firm orders they have 40 more options and as the econamy gets better they will convert more. maybe all 40!

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16245 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1489 times:

Correct, Airtran now has 60 firm orders.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineCritter From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 267 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1442 times:

Check out this web site for lease information on the ex-TWA 717's http://www.boeing.com/commercial/airtrade/minispec/55058.pdf

critter


User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2899 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (12 years 3 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1382 times:

*Very* interesting link, Critter!

>> "Currently I don´t see any new customer for this bird as - probably - Midwest Express who still officially has to confirm its order."
Midwest Express already has confirmed this order last week: http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2002/q2/nr_020415g.html



User currently offline717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1300 times:

Boeing is trying to sell or lease about 4-5 of this aircraft to Vuelamex who has again ask the mexican authority for a licence to start operations.

User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1777 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (12 years 3 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1242 times:

These 717's would replace perfectly the old DC-9's AM plans on retiring soon, the problem I see is that AM also operates other higher capacity MD-80's that could not be replaced by the 717's, and there are no signs of Boeing developing other variants of this airframe.


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