Kuba74 From Poland, joined Mar 2000, 432 posts, RR: 0 Posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1341 times:
What is the policy of world`s major airlines considered as "national carriers" in hiring foreign pilots? I suppose there are some EU regulations that forbid this sort of discrimination but I`m not quite sure. Is this the part of nation`s pride to employ only native pilots?
Regards
Kuba
Ice Cream Man From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 127 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1282 times:
EU and US regulations I might add. And Australian, Brasilian, Chinese etc etc etc.
Not that it's impossible - a European airline will happily take on anybody who is from te European Union (provide he/she is qualified for the job).
Another hurdle is licencing; even if an American would have te right to work in Europe, he/she would not get a job as long as that person would have no European license.
TNboy From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 1131 posts, RR: 21 Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1268 times:
A lot of Asian airlines, for example, have British, Australian and New Zealand crews, among others. SQ has crews from a number of nationalities. Following the pilots strike in Australia some years ago, the flight crew announcements started coming over in European and American accents, and still did, on Ansett anyway, until very recently. Air Pacific used QF crerws until local crews took over, etc., etc.
I think most national carriers would probably like to employ predominantly local crews, but, depending on the size of the airline, it's not often a realistic proposition, at least in the short term. I imagine it's not an issue in countries such as the USA, Britain, etc.?
Bill
Polair From United States of America, joined May 2001, 893 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1241 times:
In US you need a green card and american license. an fluent english of course. Same with Canada.
I dont really know how is it in Europe, but i am quite sure they all hire only native pilots.
CX used to hire foreigners, but not anymore.
Emirates is the only major airline that hires foreign pilots ( as far as I know), but that may change soon too.
GRZ-AIR From Austria, joined Apr 2001, 573 posts, RR: 4 Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1220 times:
As long as you are a nationality of a country which is member in the EU - you can apply for an airline in the EU. For example , I am austrian and could apply for Lufthansa.
9V-SPF From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1375 posts, RR: 3 Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1220 times:
On my flights with SQ, the pilots mostly had a british accent but I´ve seen asian people in their cockpits as well.
I know that there are a couple of foreign pilots flying for Lufthansa City Line and I´m sure that, like GRZ-AIR already mentioned, there is no reason why an austrian or dutch pilot wouldn´t be able to get hired by BA, LH or AF.
Patroni From Luxembourg, joined Aug 1999, 1403 posts, RR: 15 Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1137 times:
Many European carriers have pilots from all over the world, provided that their license is valid in the respective home country of the airline. Our company has people from many places in Europe, but also from the USA or South Africa for example. There is normally no such thing that for example a Lufthansa pilot must be German, I guess however that it is a prerequesite to speak the national language.
TT737FO From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 472 posts, RR: 9 Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1114 times:
Gulfstream has a great many foreigners from countries where there is not much emphasis placed on bathing and hygiene.
KAL_LM From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 497 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1098 times:
Due to the issues KE had, they have a sizable ex-pat contingent as well. But I think it is decreasing as more civilian trained Korean pilots come on-line.
It seemed to me like KE kept the foreigners on the cargo flights and out of the public's eye...anyone else notice that with them or other national carriers using foreign crews?
regards,
Tom
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Hawkeye2 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 234 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1071 times:
JAL started with aircraft and flight crew from Pan Am. Even now, you occasionally see American or other Western tech crew on JAL flights.
The 4 times I've flown SQ, the captain has ALWAYS been British or Australian, or sure sounded like one on the PA!
Parra From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1016 times:
Also remember that many people from the former colonies of the United Kingdom may sound British especially to American ears. I'm British and live in the USA and I get asked at least three times a day "What part of Australia are you from?". Listening to a pilots accent on the PA is not necessarily an indicator of nationality.
NZ767 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 1620 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1007 times:
When their first 777s were delivered, Cathays 777 fleet manager was a Kiwi.
Parra, I can relate to that.
I'm a New Zealander and because of my complexion, I've been mistaken for a Puerto Rican in Honolulu, and due to my accent, for a Brit there as well (although my father comes from Manchester).
ETA Unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2016 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 994 times:
Parra- it's got nothing to do with discrimination and all to do with work permits. You just can't rock up to another country and expect to live there if you are not a citizen of that country (exceptions: Australia and New Zealand, the EU). However, if an airline has a shortage of pilots and needs to sponsor foreigners, then that's a different matter.
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