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Qatar Airways Fleet Update.  
User currently offlineQatar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1726 times:

During the past month Qatar Airways firmed up one of the remaining two options on the A320. Taking the A320 firm orders up to 10 aircraft with 2 delivered already also another one is scheduled to be delivered in May 2001 the remaining option is expected to be firmed up in the upcoming months. These owned A320s have improved IFE and slightly better cabins over the 4 leased A320s from SALE which will all be returned as more new A320s are delivered.
Qatar Airways intended to take 3 A330-200s this year but the Emiri flight will lease(?) one of the A330s for about one year and so Qatar Airways leased an A300-600R from AWAS to increase capacity untill the A330-200 is returned. This takes Qatar Airways' A300-600R fleet to 7 aircraft.

The winner for the order B777 or the A340-500(-600?) is expected to be anounced in the upcoming months. Rumours say that Qatar Airways will order a comination of both the B777 and the A340-500 to compliment it's fleet of A330-200s.

Last but not least Qatar Airways will hold a press conference next week and I will keep you guys updated.

Regards,
Qatar


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User currently offlineQatar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1659 times:

Just some registration information

First A330-200 (Delivery 07 MAY 2002)
c/n 473 Registration: A7-ACA

Latest A300-600R
c/n 630 Registration: A7-AFA

Upcoming A320-200 (Delivery MAY 2002)
c/n 1773 Registration: A7-ADC


And now some interesting information. This recently leased A300-600R operated for a short while previously with Qatar Airways before bieng returned to it's lessor in favor of 2 second hand A300-600Rs. It's registration used to be A7-ABP, and now it returns to Qatar Airways.


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12407 posts, RR: 37
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1654 times:

Combination of the 345 AND 777?! Had they stuck to the 345, they'd have the advantage of an all Airbus fleet (and the cockpit commonality that goes with that); what would their rationale be for operating both types; are there routes which would be specifically suited to either type and is QR looking long haul expansion (US, Australia?)

In relation to the 332, which I am sure will look fabulous in QR c/s, will the one being leased to the royal flight be painted in the same scheme as the 310/340 and will this aircraft be the first to be delivered? When should the first 332 enter service with QR?

Finally, do you expect QR to attempt to go head to head with EK in attempting to develop DOH as a regional hub; will the Qatari government attempt to make Doha a strong competitor to Dubai?


User currently offline717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1642 times:

What will they tell us at press confeerence next week? New destinations (I hope for ZRH)) or the new aircraft order? That would become interesting. Good to see an airline who is expanding so fast in these days...
717fan


User currently offlineQatar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1633 times:

="what would their rationale be for operating both types"

Here is the rationale: The load factors accorss Qatar Airways network are high especially in the Medium/Long Haul routes. Qatar Airways could add frequencies but for slot constrainted airports like LHR, a larger aircraft than the A330-200 (that will only add a few seats over the A300-600R). Qatar Airways are currently looking at both the B777 and the A340-500 and more A380-800s. The rationale is that the A340-500 is more suitable for Qatar Airways for longer flights to the US etc and the B777 is more suitable for high density European and Asian destinations.


-"is QR looking long haul expansion (US, Australia?)

QR has intentions to fly to the US, they considered Australia for a while but later decided that it was too low yeild to make any profit. So I expect that for the near term code shares will be the only way that Qatar Airways will be represented in Australia.

-"will the one being leased to the royal flight be painted in the same scheme as the 310/340

The A340 and the A320 of the Emiri flight are painted in the dark maroon Emiri c/s. The A310 and Falcon 900 are painted in Qatar Airways c/s. I honestly don't know what c/s will be used for A330-200 that will be wet leased to the Emiri flight. I guess it will be in QR's colour scheme which makes it easier and cheaper for it to be converted to mainline service.

-"Finally, do you expect QR to attempt to go head to head with EK in attempting to develop DOH as a regional hub; will the Qatari government attempt to make Doha a strong competitor to Dubai?"

This is already happening, this explains why Qatar Airways has a yearly growth rate of 40%. The bulk of the people travelling from Europe on QR connect in DOH for flights to Asia. Also Qatar Airways are taking EK head on, for example QR and EK will start operation to CMN (EK already did), SEZ, Mauritius and the US in the same time frame. They also cooperate with EK for example they used to aquire spare parts together for the A300s and the A310s and they will soon for the A330 to reduce costs. Also QR and EK are in a joint venture crew training facility in Dubai.

About DOH, the airport was recently renovated and was also expanded to increase capacity from 3mln pax ro 5mln pax. The airport itself is IMO better than Bahrain and is on Par with DXB and AUH. There are new terminal / Runway / control tower / cargo facilities etc under construction that will be ready in time for the Asian Games in 2006 which will be held in Doha, Qatar


User currently offlineQatar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1626 times:

717fan

I don't know really. I think it will have something to do with Qatar Airways Holidays. The new destinations were supposed to be anounced this month and so they might be anounced in the press conference I strongly expect ZRH and MAN but a friend has told me they are seriously considering CPH when the enter Star Alliance.

The aircraft order should be anounced in a few months.


User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1601 times:

Hi,

I have a question- if QR has no intention of flying to Australia then what the Hell are they going to do with the A380s?!?!?!?!

Alot of people have said that's it's too big for QR to make a profit with but I assumed that they'd put them to use by flying alot of passengers between Europe and Australia (via the M.E.) like EK does.

So what are they for?!

Thanks


User currently offlineSas767 From Denmark, joined Dec 1999, 412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1584 times:

Qatar,

Very interesting to hear about the CPH plans. We desperately need a route from Copenhagen to the Middle East and I have for long time been hoping for a EK service to CPH but Qatar online at CPH would also be very nice indeed!!!

I hope you will keep us updated about the CPH plans.

Best regards
SAS767
Copenhagen, Denmark


User currently offlineQatar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1583 times:

What I meant was that Qatar Airways has no intentions to operate to Australia in the near term. Maybe they will operate to Australia when the A380s arrive.
Qatar Airways passenger figures are growing by about 40% every year. That means in 2007 when the A380s are delivered they will have at least tripled the amount of PAX travelling on Qatar Airways even if the growth rate is half what it is now. This means that the A380 is important for Qatar Airways. The DOH-LHR route is already flying with similar loads to EK but QR can't add more frequencies because of slot restrictions and so larger aircraft are needed. Anyway Qatar Airways plan to have only about 400+ seats in the A380s and configure all classes with seat pitch never seen before and offer many of the amneties that were advertised by Airbus when the A380s was launched. Qatar Airways says that because of the economics of the A380 it can do this profitablly.
By the way the two firm (LOI) orders for the A380 will be used exclusivly for the DOH-LHR route. The 2 options for the A380 are planned for Asia services. Mr. Al-Rais a manger working for Qatar Airways has said that becuase of the huge growth QR are experiencing they plan to order a few more A380s!!!


User currently offlineQatar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1580 times:

SAS767

Sure, I will keep every one updated here at a.net of any developments concerning Qatar Airways.


User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1577 times:
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Well it's good to hear that LHR will get the A380 once QR get's them. It will make the spotting trips much more interesting!

Arsenal@LHR



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User currently offlineQatar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1571 times:

Kaitak, if you want to see concepts of the new terminal at DOH click on the link and see one of my previous posts.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/761637/


User currently offlineAlpha From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1550 times:

Hello,

Qatar said : "The A340 and the A320 of the Emiri flight are painted in the dark maroon Emiri c/s."

The A320 A7-AAG is in Qatar Airways colours now, and the VIP A332 will be the s/n 487, A7-HJJ and the VIP A345 will be the s/n 495 :

487 A330-203 A7-HHJ QATAR AIRWAYS GE CF6-80E1A3 OPF Qatari Amiri Flight, ilt should be delivered in june 2002.

495 A340-541 A7- QATAR AIRWAYS RR Trent 556-61, it should be delivered in 2003 I believe.

Regards

Steph


User currently offlineQatar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1549 times:

Thank you for the update Alpha, although AFAIK the A340 will stay in the Maroon C/S.

BTW isn't C/N 495 an A340-600 for Air Canada. The A330-200 will return to Qatar Airways, according to Marc in the Orders Group when the A340-500 is delivered.


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