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TWA Cargojets & American Freighters  
User currently offlineLindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3120 posts, RR: 13
Posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1267 times:
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Browsing through the uploads the other day I came across Steve Williams' phenomenal photos from 1970 including the following pictures of dedicated cargo aircraft operated by TWA and AA.

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Delta and Alaska Airlines both used to fly dedicated cargo aircraft as well back in the late 60s and early 70s. Why did these airlines get out of the pure freight business by the 1980s? Can anyone supply details about the fleets of dedicated freight aircraft used by these airlines? Thanks in advance.


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User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1239 times:

While I don't know anything about Alaska, Delta & TWA's airfreighters, I can tell you a little about American. AA had 8 707-323CFs & 6 747-123Fs over the years, altho not at the same time. AA got out of the pure airfreighter business when the bellies of the passenger aircrafts could carry almost as much freight, particularly the DC-10s & A300s...and still make money at it. American retired the 707s because they were getting old & required more maintenance...the 747s because of the fuel cost & again the belly roles of the passenger aircrafts. N7555A, N7556A, N7557A, N7558A, N7559A, N7560A, N7561A & N8404 were the 707-323CFs. N9661, N9671, N9672, N9673, N9675 & N9676 were the 747-123Fs. All were former passengers ships before being converted. Hope this helps. Regards.


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User currently offlineJonPaulGeoRngo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1221 times:

I suppose with the growth of the widebody fleets (save for Alaska) and their generous cargo capabilities meant more passenger flights could carry the load formerly carried by dedicated freighters.

Of course, the early 80s also saw the rise of Federal Express, UPS and others as major air cargo carriers.


User currently offlineLindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3120 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1186 times:
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Thought I'd dredge up my topic in case anybody can provide more info about TWA's old cargo division and/or those of any other airlines.

A few more photos:

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User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1181 times:

Some info on Alaska's and Delta's L-100-20 Hercules fleets.
Alaska...6 various Herks were operated from 1965 to 1971.
N1130E, N920NA, N9227R, N9248R, N9263R & N9267R.

Delta...6 various Herks were operated from 1966 to 1973.
N1130E, N7999S, N9258R, N9259R, N9262R & N9268R.

One aircraft, N1130E, actually had a career with both airlines. Regards.



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User currently offlineAgnusBymaster From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 652 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1163 times:

I'm pretty sure Alaska still operates cargo-only flights with it's 737-200 combis. I remember seeing in the back of their timetable a "freighter schedule."

User currently offlineBrowntailWhale From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1158 times:

Most of the former AA 747's are still going strong at UPS.

User currently offlineFanofjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1984 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1136 times:

One of the more unusual dedicated freighters was a lone Fairchild C-82, named Ontos (Greek for "thing").

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Here's a picture of her later in life:

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