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Swiss Back With Airbus In Brussels  
User currently offlinePressclub From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 774 posts, RR: 5
Posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1435 times:

Hi guys,

I returned this morning to Brussels on the 7h20 Swiss/SN Brussels Zurich-Brussels flight. The route was operated not with the Avro Jet but with an Airbus 321 !!!! This biggest Airbus single aisle was almost full in C and Y. Many children, families and transfert pax boarded in Zurich for the 55 minute trip.

From this summer season on Swiss wil regulary appear in Brussels with Airbus again. And their handling partner is no longer Sabena but Aviapartner





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User currently offlineKenny From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1363 times:

Off course, groundhandling of Sabena doesn't exist anymore  Smile

I don't know who has bought it.


User currently offlinePressclub From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 774 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1356 times:

Kenny,

Groundhandling SN still operates !!!!! The receiver let them continue to work. FCC (Spain) wants to buy them.


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1349 times:

Hey Pressclub,

Since the summer season, Swiss is operating flights to Brussels with A32S, S20, AR1 and AR8. A whole mix of types on the BRU-ZRH route.

A question, what was the loadfactor on that A321 flight of this morning?

Regards,
Sabena 690


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1341 times:

Oops, sorry. I read over it I think.
Almost sold-out.

Regards,
Sabena 690


User currently offlineSpitfire From France, joined Feb 2001, 801 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1342 times:

Hey Sabena 690, Pressclub wrote:"Airbus single aisle was almost full in C and Y".
That should answer your question
Rgds
Spitfire



Sabena ... Never to be forgotten (12 years already , what a shame !! )
User currently offlineSpitfire From France, joined Feb 2001, 801 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1342 times:

2 minutes 30 sec late sorry.......


Sabena ... Never to be forgotten (12 years already , what a shame !! )
User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1268 times:

Yup, SN ground handling still exists. As a matter of fact, they gave me aphone call a couple of days ago, asking me if I'd like to work for them during the summer months.

So, to all you pilots out here, it's possible that you might see me during august working on the ramp.

By the way, does anybody know what 'GlobeGround' is? I saw it when I went to BRu last thursday to test the new Pier A (will be there again next tuesday). Is it the new name for SN Ground Handling?

Sorry Pressclub that I ask these questions in your thread, just couldn't resist the temptation  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Ivan



Ivan Coninx - Brussels Aviation Photography
User currently offlineKenny From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1251 times:

@ Pressclub

I thought FCC took over it and the name SN disappeard, damn, need to check the airport more.


User currently offline744rules From Belgium, joined Mar 2002, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1243 times:

@ apuneger
globeground is a german handling company. I do not know the connection with lh but i know they also handle the thomas cook flts in terms of operations and checkin. Loading/unloading/catering and cleaning are done by aviapartner


User currently offlinePressclub From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 774 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

Let me just make it clear:

x Globeground WAS a German company owned by Lufthansa. It's now a french owned handling group. Together with Swissport it's the biggest handling company in the world. In Brussels they are alreay present for 5 years now. They do the landside handling of almost all star alliance partners. Also Thomas Cook (partially Lufthansa owned as you all know) work with GlobeGround.

x Globeground is fighting to get a license for airside handling in Brussels. This is now a duopoly market (Sabena Ground, Aviapartner). Globeground participated in the receiver's bidding for Sabena Handling but their offer was not withold. They now went to court and complain against the take-over of Sabena Ground Handling by FCC.... So, SN 690 the take-over of Sabena Ground Handling by FCC is not a done deal by now. There is also a union problem (the unions don't accept the social plan FCC wants to implement)...

Conclusion: even in this sector of the tough industry lots of tensions and an uncertain future !!!






User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1196 times:

Thanks for clearng this up, 744rules and Pressclub.

I just was wondering, because it was the first time I ever saw their logo at BRU.

Ivan



Ivan Coninx - Brussels Aviation Photography
User currently offlinePressclub From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 774 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1193 times:

That's strange, Ivan. Their 'Globe' is already 5 years in Brussels and it is one of the worldleaders in this business. Ofcourse they are not so sexy until now as they don't work on the airside...

User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1181 times:

Well, maybe it was the first time I ever noticed their logo. Still, I hadn't seen this one ever before...

Ivan



Ivan Coninx - Brussels Aviation Photography
User currently offlineAirDD From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1161 times:


Pressclub,

Wasn't Globe called Lufthansa Ground Brussels a couple of years, ago, I seem to remember that they had a small ticket counter at the back of the departure level of the airport building,

airDD


User currently offlinePressclub From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 774 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1158 times:

You are right AirDD. They belonged to Lufthansa. They also had/have a lost & found counter in the arrival lugage hall

User currently offlineLoadcontroller From Switzerland, joined Feb 2002, 85 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1113 times:

But do you know what is funny about the use of A319/320/321 from ZRH to BRU?

We are not allowed to load any ULD's (baggage and cargo containers) with the old "swissair"-logo on it. For a reason I do not know, "swisscargo" is OK. They must have the new "swiss" thing on it. This is due to the fact that the new Swiss airline is still afraid of having stuff blocked in BRU.......

It's the small things whitch make you think like it was before.

Loadcontroller


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