Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (11 years 8 months 15 hours ago) and read 2252 times:
CO resumes it's dialy nonstop CLE-LGW today. It was shelved in early October following the Sept 11 attacks.
Flt 66 departs CLE at 725pm. Flt 67, LGW-CLE, will resume on 16 April. Over 180,000 people took the CLE-LGW flight while it operated from June, 1999 till it was supsended last October.
Hopefully, this is a sure sign that air travel, at least for Clevelanders, is getting back to normal.
Heavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 15 hours ago) and read 2001 times:
Good news for Cleveland, Continental...AND the 757. This city pair is a prime demonstration not only of Boeing's 'hub bypass' theory in action, but a great example of the versatility of the 'Rocket Ship'...and how longer range designs of the Seven Five should be pursued.
Ncflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 449 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 14 hours ago) and read 1957 times:
Well this is good news for Cleveland-- in my opinion CLE is the most underserved market in the country. Only 4 flights to BOS for example, one on a regional jet? (My home market of RDU must have about 15-20 to BOS!). Only 3 flights to LAX? Only 2 flights to SFO?
DCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4419 posts, RR: 35 Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 13 hours ago) and read 1903 times:
Good for Cleveland! Always good to hear good aviation news at one of my "other homes."
NCFlyer asks why CLE is so underserved on key routes...do a search for Alpha 1's thread "Want to know why CLE is so screwed up?" The thread has a link to a long article in Cleveland's tabloid-alternative newspaper, the Free Press I think it's called.
Basically, the City of Cleveland runs the airport and uses it as a dumping ground for mayoral cronies who are about as competent as Homer Simpson to run an airport. They keep fees high (which is why WN doesn't expand there) and have fumbled runway reconfiguration repeatedly. They fumbled inquries from JetBLue, and get this, *Lufthansa Cargo!* These airlines *came inquring* and the city messed up. Unbelievable.
It remains to be seen whether the new mayor, Jane Campbell, will change things. Let's hope that the courts don't throw any more monkey wrenches in the runway work.
N766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8035 posts, RR: 25 Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 11 hours ago) and read 1855 times:
This also marks the start of a 3 day campaign in which Mayor Campbell, the head of city council, and top CO execs will be going to LGW to boost tourism to CLE and Ohio. Looks like the city and CO are finally getting along!
FrequentFlyKid From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1204 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 10 hours ago) and read 1822 times:
That's so original Stretch. When's the last time you've been to Cleveland? Also, why does it matter what the city is like for you to fly non-stop CLE-LGW? If you live in the midwest and can connect at EWR or CLE why not choose CLE? Your reasoning makes no sense. By the way, it's the Cuyahoga River.
Stretch 8 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2561 posts, RR: 17 Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 1801 times:
Sorry Flykid. I was in Cleveland last year. My best friend from law school lives in Cleveland, and I bust his chops with the same cliche lines. Cleveland is a great town (but the Indians have not, and will not, win the big one).
Maggs swings, it's a drive deep to left! The Tigers are going to the World Series!!!
Heavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (11 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 1798 times:
FrequentFly, let him make fun all he wants. The massively outdated visions of a dumpy downtown and a fiery river in the mind of people who dont know any better is what keeps Cleveland America's best kept secret as far as a great city to live in.
If the secret gets out the cost of living goes up, the traffic gets out of control, the delays at the airport....
YES! CLEVELAND IS A PIT! YOUD NEVER WANT TO LIVE THERE!
Ncflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 449 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (11 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 1787 times:
I am a native Clevelander and in fact am moving back there this summer and am very excited about it cause there isn't a better place to raise a family-- period.
But I will say the airport is now Cleveland's A#1 embarrassment, and it's sad cause in the jet age so many people form their impression of a city based on its airport. The 1970s signage is the same as when I left town in '85, many of the signs have been taped over or have burned out lightbulbs. The signs pointing out the airport exit are so washed out from sun and rain as to be barely readable. I flew WN and their concourse is so under-maintenanced, it's sad. My personal favorite are the entry doors outside the departure level of the airport-- looks like about half of them were hit and destroyed by rental car buses but have never been repaired.
I read the Free Times Article and I sure do hope Mayor Cambpell gets it-- but I don't know how big a hole she can dig out of. I'd say the airport is a good 30 years behind the times-- in terms of its service and the quality of the facility.
Afitch7881 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 812 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (11 years 8 months 8 hours ago) and read 1752 times:
Fly CO and you will see CLE doesn't have a half way bad terminal. Terminal D is it? The comuter terminal is really nice, the tunnel is a nice addition and the CO wing has been expanded and renovated since D was opened. The runway issue sucks however, and I do agree the other parts of the terminal are quite horrible. The ticket counter areas if I remember correct were quite old too.
Heavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (11 years 8 months 5 hours ago) and read 1691 times:
This city pair is a prime demonstration not only of Boeing's 'hub bypass' theory in action
Say what?Isnt CLE a hub?
Cleveland is a hub. Cleveland is NOT a hub to Europe for CO. Newark is. The 757 is changing that. It is an excellent example of Boeing's smaller jets on non-traditional city pairs theory that is often cited in the endless Airbus vs. Boeing arguments here.