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User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5294 posts, RR: 61
Posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1671 times:

Hello,

-- There is some pretty BIG BMI Baby News out today. Firstly they will start 3 new routes this Autumn with seats going on sale in May. These will be Geneva, Alicante and Munich!

-- Their current 3 aircraft will increase to 5 aircraft in Autumn and then to 8 aircraft next year.

-- A second UK hub will be established in March 2003.

-- Their load factor so far was around 74% and 91% of all flights arrived with 15 minutes.

(Strange thing is that I sent them an email suggesting Geneva a few weeks ago following their press release asking for route suggestions)

Jeremiah


Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
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User currently offlineMadhatter From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1569 times:

With them actually starting to Alicante proper will this mean that they'll quit Murcia as theyve been advertising this as Alicante and the two are tather close together.
Also where is the announcement on www.bmibaby.com
i cant see it there!


User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5294 posts, RR: 61
Reply 2, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1551 times:

Madhatter,

Here is the press release:

http://www.bmibaby.com/bmibaby/press/release.asp?ArticleID=27

Jeremiah



Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24928 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1540 times:

Any idea of the second UK hub? Newcastle or Teesside perhaps?


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User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7370 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1523 times:
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GKirk

It's definitely not STN or LTN - thinks where there is no low-cost operators...if GO choose NCL, then MME may be favourite. Or MAN (or LBA/HUY) but not LPL. Not EDI or GLA (if easyJets future planned Scottish operations are anything to go by).

Blackpool is a remote possibility.

David/MAN


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1508 times:

Coventry  Big thumbs up Seriously though,if Coventry was upgraded a bit it could be attractive to the low cost carriers.

User currently offlineKarliboy From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1502 times:

Maersk have just announced 3 new routes from BHX...Athens, Venice and Geneva from BHX, might they be pre-empting Go's or Baby's future route plans?

Karl


User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24928 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1492 times:

Yeah but if BMI baby step in before Go at NCL...


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User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7370 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1494 times:
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Maersk UK to Geneva? Didn't they launch and give up that route two years ago?


David


User currently offlineKarliboy From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1460 times:

BMIBaby jumped into EMA on the back of their already existing programme BMI...maybe they'll do the same elsewhere, where they already have a money making client base (for low-cost pax or not). Advise as i don't follow BMI really, so don't particularly know where they fly from other than LHR EMA MAN.

Karl


User currently offlineKarliboy From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1458 times:

it's on the BHX website David

Karl


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1453 times:

I have a feeling this is going to backfire on bmI.

User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2958 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1423 times:

Im sure bmi said that this baby wasnt going anyway else than EMA......now they cjhange their minds, well im sure it will backfire as someone is going to fall. It will be bmibaby first imho because it isnt really a low cost carrier, it is just another attempt to bring low fares to a high cost carrier.

ciao


User currently offlineLBA From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1372 times:

BMI baby would be OK if they charged low fares. I have tried so many times to find something to anywhere leaving on different dates and never get a price less than £150 return! I don't even try any more. Last quote was for Palma for 4-5 days at the beginning of July or September - not bothered what day I travel or what time. Cheapest fare for two £400!!!!! BMI=No frills high price.

User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1357 times:

Geneva and Munich will be with one eye on the ski market, and Alicante maybe because of Go already flying to the better known desitination.

However, I entirely agree with LBA above. Seems to me that all BMI have done is repackaged their existing Med routes under a new low far banner and a new livery, added a few more destinations, and with the exception of some promotion and deep discounts (and lets be honest, so pretty cheap fares were available on thier Med routes before) are charging fares not much different to those available previously. Just goes to show - if you tell people its low fares and throw in a few to start the ball rolling, they'll believe its low fares they're getting.

As to the new base, I'd suspect it will be one of their existing crew bases which would avoid base set up costs and would allow them to draw full service cabin crew onto Baby ops as needed. My guesses would be Leeds/Bradford, Teesside, Glasgow or Edinburgh. LBA may be a bit too close to Baby at EMA and Easy at LPL for comfort, and could also be threatened if Stellios succeeds in moving into Finningley, so I'd suspect MME over LBA. GLA is probably a better market than EDI for low fares if they were looking to start in Scotland.

Just my thoughts...


User currently offline757man From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 370 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1308 times:

David, you are quite correct about the Geneva service operated by MSK from BHX...They gave it up a while back claiming Easyjet were taking the PAX away. I was as surprised as you to hear this news - The other routes such as Athens have been in the pipeline for some time. The airline has been recruiting cabin crew in the local B'ham press for a while now.

The airline seems to be focusing on the CR7 as it's main fleet workhorse. The 735's will all be gone in the long term plan, and the CR2's seem to be dwindling. G-MSKO and G-MSKP will soon be off to Denmark as more CR7's arrive. The crews much prefer the CR7 to it's smaller sibling too..

There is also news of a new low cost carrier starting from BHX later this year - Details are very sketchy at present, but it will be interesting to see how this one turns out.


User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2595 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1263 times:

I'd love to see MME as bmibaby's 2nd UK base. This is one of bmi's longest-established hubs, as their first ever scheduled service out of LHR was the MME route back in the late 1960s, and continues to be one of their key domestic routes today.

The north-east of England lacks a large 'low-fares' presence, with the exception of Go's NCL-STN route, and Ryanair's MME-DUB route.

Teesside Airport have stated in the local press this week that they aim to achieve over double the present pax figures by the year 2010. This is quite a bold intention given the current scheduled operations out of MME, and the fact that this summers charter seats will be down 7% on last summers' seats. Maybe they feel something good is in the pipeline?????

Geographically, MME serves a large catchment area and would be an ideal second base for the likes of bmibaby - I mean, just look what Easyjet made out of Liverpool Airport!


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