LanPeru From Peru, joined Jun 2001, 644 posts, RR: 10 Posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1782 times:
Hi, I was wondering what it's like to be in the bench of 5 on the 777, the 777 has pretty wide seats but where does that leave your upper body? What's it like for a longhaul flight? I.E the 12hr flight from LAX-LHR on the AA 777.
Rick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 52 Reply 3, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1589 times:
The 2-5-2 seating of the 777 in economy is the primary reason I prefer to fly the A330 on long trips in Y.
It's ok if I can get in a 2 by the window, but have been stuck in the "centre" of the 5 before and getting up when people are sleeping around you is not very nice.
The BA 3-4-3 (or is it 3-3-3?) config in the 777 is just as bad, since a window seat means you're still buried 2 seats from the aisle.
Peronal preference I suppose, but perception-wise the Airbus widebody cabin is better for me. Of course, if I had the money I would go in Business / First and choose a 777 every time... wouldn't we all?!
I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
Treg From Estonia, joined Oct 2001, 534 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1515 times:
Was flying UA 777 SFO-FRA 2-5-2 seating and that was the most horrible flight I have ever had. Seats were narrow, uncomfortable and I had a feeling that their seat pitch is also the smallest I have ever experienced (Usually flying SAS 763ER, now A340). No good words about this particular configuration.
Jmc777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 234 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1430 times:
With reference to BA's high density 777's, now that the contract with us has finished as of 31 March 2002, G-VIIO, G-VIIP, G-VIIR have all been reconfigured. They remain in two class, Club World and World Traveller. They extended the Club Cabin and made the seating in World Traveller 3-3-3.
Now why couldn't they have done that when we asked them to 3 years ago ?? Definitely much better.
Spk From Thailand, joined Jun 2001, 458 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1414 times:
I think they should use 2-5-2 but give the middle seat passengers a wider seat and/or wider arm rest and some other minor perks. That should compensate the inconvenience of being put in the middle of the 5-seat row. Is this the best of both worlds?
YoungDon From United States of America, joined May 2001, 309 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1387 times:
I like the 2-4-2 on the Airbus widebodies. Its not too bad in one of the middle seats. 2-3-2 is the best tho. It would seem like the fairest configuration for 777 coach would be 3-3-3 because 2-5-2 means you have to go over two people if youre in the middle. With 3-3-3 its just like a 737 with an extra block of seats. And we all can deal with 737's. Sorry if that doesn't make any sense, I'm sick and just took some NyQuil or something...
EGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 37 Reply 16, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1326 times:
Even 3-3-3 isn't that bad on the A330, compared to 2-4-2 on a 767. I've also done 3-3-3 in a MON A300 and that wasn't too bad. The AIH 767-300ER was the worst, terrible leg room and terrible seat width
I hope I don't have to fly them again (in the majority of cases we can fly scheduled, but never want to fly from LHR for some crazy reason..).
I don't like the idea of 2-5-2, the 5 annoys me, I hate a row that has too many seats without an aisle. I think that 2-4-3 is the best option, unfortunetely it doesn't look that 'balanced' .
LanPeru From Peru, joined Jun 2001, 644 posts, RR: 10 Reply 20, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1275 times:
Ok, we have all seen on the A340 that in the bench 4 the if you are in the 2 inner-most seats you get that extra armest in the middle, so would it me possible to give ever passenger that in a configuration such as 2-5-2 or 3-3-3 so they won't feel as cramped?
Trintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3211 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1266 times:
It is refreshing to hear that BA has done away with the 3-4-3 on the World Traveller on the 777-200s to the Caribbean - that was the epitome of tight seating! I flew on them between Tobago and Gatwick last year and wrote all about it in a trip report. Rather a nasty seating arrangement and it was a shock when I first boarded in TAB. Not knowing what to expect, I entered and was bewildered by the sight of people everywhere!
ZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5563 posts, RR: 38 Reply 24, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1166 times:
Former Swissair and now Swiss uses 2-4-3 on their MD 11. It is the best seating with 9 seats abreast. You only have one "double excuse" seat per row. All seatings with a seat more (3-4-3 on 777/MD11 or 3-3-3 on 330/340) is horrible and cramped. I would never ever fly it. Every inch is important.
Cmk10 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 513 posts, RR: 4 Reply 25, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1159 times:
If that middle seat is anythign like the ones i used to take on AA DC-10's 6-7 years ago your not in for a fun time. If your in the bulkhead row (it was 11 on the -10's) its not so bad because you have the room to get around people. But if your in any other row its your scrwed 4 ways from sunday. 2 to the right of you 2 to the left and im stuck in the middle with no way to the bathroom! I hated it so much, haven't tried it on the 777 yet, i assume its better.
DC-10's Forver anyway
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