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2-5-2 On The 777  
User currently offlineLanPeru From Peru, joined Jun 2001, 645 posts, RR: 9
Posted (12 years 5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2011 times:

Hi, I was wondering what it's like to be in the bench of 5 on the 777, the 777 has pretty wide seats but where does that leave your upper body? What's it like for a longhaul flight? I.E the 12hr flight from LAX-LHR on the AA 777.

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User currently offlineILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (12 years 5 months 6 days ago) and read 1918 times:

Its not that bad unless you are in the middle. I had to do the middle of 5 going to Chicago 3 weeks ago. You can read about it in my trip report titled "David goes to Deltaland"

I L U V 7 6 7


User currently offlineAirNewZealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2542 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1878 times:

Hey,
I sat in the middle seat from SEL-AKL on KE, and didnot find it any different to any other seat!! Not too cramped, just right, and very cosy!!

Mike


User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1818 times:

The 2-5-2 seating of the 777 in economy is the primary reason I prefer to fly the A330 on long trips in Y.

It's ok if I can get in a 2 by the window, but have been stuck in the "centre" of the 5 before and getting up when people are sleeping around you is not very nice.

The BA 3-4-3 (or is it 3-3-3?) config in the 777 is just as bad, since a window seat means you're still buried 2 seats from the aisle.

Peronal preference I suppose, but perception-wise the Airbus widebody cabin is better for me. Of course, if I had the money I would go in Business / First and choose a 777 every time... wouldn't we all?!



I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

BA has 3-3-3, which isn't that bad. The BEST? 2-4-3. DEFINATLY.

User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1782 times:

I agree 777236ER.

Well, with the possible exception of the best widebody in the sky and it's 2-3-2 config... gotta love the 76.



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User currently offlineRickB From United Kingdom, joined May 2003, 243 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

777236ER - BA has a number of 777's fitted out with 3-4-3 in economy for high density 'tourist' routes, like Florida or the Caribbean - not very comfortable !!

User currently offlineTreg From Estonia, joined Oct 2001, 537 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1744 times:

Was flying UA 777 SFO-FRA 2-5-2 seating and that was the most horrible flight I have ever had. Seats were narrow, uncomfortable and I had a feeling that their seat pitch is also the smallest I have ever experienced (Usually flying SAS 763ER, now A340). No good words about this particular configuration.

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1727 times:

The 3-4-3 777s are only for Carib routes, and there's only 2 of them.

The majority are 3-3-3.

But yeah, the 767 2-3-2 ROCKS.


User currently offlineAFa340-300E From France, joined May 1999, 2084 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1713 times:

Hello,

777236ER, there are three BA/AML 777-200ERs with a high density configuration (G-VIIO, IP and IR). i thought uou had checked my website  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Best regards,
Alain Mengus


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1706 times:

very comfy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/666334/



User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1688 times:

Damn. I coulda sworn that there were 2. Ah well. Still, the majority are 3-3-3 with all 3/4 classes.

User currently offlineCap'n Dan From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1670 times:

Are there any airlines that use 2-4-3?

User currently offlineJmc777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1659 times:

With reference to BA's high density 777's, now that the contract with us has finished as of 31 March 2002, G-VIIO, G-VIIP, G-VIIR have all been reconfigured. They remain in two class, Club World and World Traveller. They extended the Club Cabin and made the seating in World Traveller 3-3-3.

Now why couldn't they have done that when we asked them to 3 years ago ?? Definitely much better.


User currently offlineSpk From Thailand, joined Jun 2001, 458 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1643 times:

I think they should use 2-5-2 but give the middle seat passengers a wider seat and/or wider arm rest and some other minor perks. That should compensate the inconvenience of being put in the middle of the 5-seat row. Is this the best of both worlds?

User currently offlineYoungDon From United States of America, joined May 2001, 412 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1616 times:

I like the 2-4-2 on the Airbus widebodies. Its not too bad in one of the middle seats. 2-3-2 is the best tho. It would seem like the fairest configuration for 777 coach would be 3-3-3 because 2-5-2 means you have to go over two people if youre in the middle. With 3-3-3 its just like a 737 with an extra block of seats. And we all can deal with 737's. Sorry if that doesn't make any sense, I'm sick and just took some NyQuil or something...

User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 16, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1555 times:

Even 3-3-3 isn't that bad on the A330, compared to 2-4-2 on a 767. I've also done 3-3-3 in a MON A300 and that wasn't too bad. The AIH 767-300ER was the worst, terrible leg room and terrible seat width  Sad

I hope I don't have to fly them again (in the majority of cases we can fly scheduled, but never want to fly from LHR for some crazy reason..).

I don't like the idea of 2-5-2, the 5 annoys me, I hate a row that has too many seats without an aisle. I think that 2-4-3 is the best option, unfortunetely it doesn't look that 'balanced'  Smile.


User currently offlineATA L1011 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1384 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1553 times:

Well the 2-5-2 has been used for years without many complaints on L10's and DC-10's and M11's. Try to get you rseat early if you dread those middle seats.


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User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1544 times:

I did not like being in the middle of the 2-5-2 configured United 777 on a relatively short LAX-DEN run. I can't imagine being confined like that on a 10-12 hour flight. I'd go insane.

That said, if you get the window/aisle side of a 2-5-2 configured plane, it's MUCH nicer than a 3-3-3 configured aircraft. (And I agree the 767 2-3-2 configuration is the best of the lot!)


User currently offlineAndie007 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 867 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1544 times:

I flew American LHR-LAX on seat an my seat was in the middle. Hmm.. I didn't like it. But the rest was ok.
3-3-3 would be better.


User currently offlineLanPeru From Peru, joined Jun 2001, 645 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1504 times:

Ok, we have all seen on the A340 that in the bench 4 the if you are in the 2 inner-most seats you get that extra armest in the middle, so would it me possible to give ever passenger that in a configuration such as 2-5-2 or 3-3-3 so they won't feel as cramped?


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User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1495 times:

It is refreshing to hear that BA has done away with the 3-4-3 on the World Traveller on the 777-200s to the Caribbean - that was the epitome of tight seating! I flew on them between Tobago and Gatwick last year and wrote all about it in a trip report. Rather a nasty seating arrangement and it was a shock when I first boarded in TAB. Not knowing what to expect, I entered and was bewildered by the sight of people everywhere!

Still a great plane, though, the 777.

Trintocan.



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User currently offlineShawn Patrick From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 16
Reply 22, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days ago) and read 1463 times:

Well, one good thing about sitting in the middle seat is nobody is going to try to jump over you to get to the lav!

User currently offlineLanPeru From Peru, joined Jun 2001, 645 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (12 years 5 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1412 times:

Does anyone know if what I asked is possible?

User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 36
Reply 24, posted (12 years 5 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1395 times:

Former Swissair and now Swiss uses 2-4-3 on their MD 11. It is the best seating with 9 seats abreast. You only have one "double excuse" seat per row. All seatings with a seat more (3-4-3 on 777/MD11 or 3-3-3 on 330/340) is horrible and cramped. I would never ever fly it. Every inch is important.

User currently offlineCmk10 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 513 posts, RR: 3
Reply 25, posted (12 years 5 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1388 times:

If that middle seat is anythign like the ones i used to take on AA DC-10's 6-7 years ago your not in for a fun time. If your in the bulkhead row (it was 11 on the -10's) its not so bad because you have the room to get around people. But if your in any other row its your scrwed 4 ways from sunday. 2 to the right of you 2 to the left and im stuck in the middle with no way to the bathroom! I hated it so much, haven't tried it on the 777 yet, i assume its better.
DC-10's Forver anyway



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