Air Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1519 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1495 times:
but JL! I know they're a big airline but no. of international destinations... any of the European big airlines (KL, SK, etc) would serve more international destinations than JL! Justthink of all the small European countries that there is!
LH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1398 times:
I would have to say either KLM would be in there. Where in the Netherlands can you realistically go from AMS that you can't by train or car? I think there may be some services, like Maastricht or something like that, but other than maybe 3 or so destinations that would be worth serving from AMS by KLM, all of KLMs flights are international.
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Hkg82 From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2002, 1328 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1382 times:
I would say the airlines with the biggest international route network are: British Airways, Lufthansa & Air France. The 'Big 3' as they say in Europe. They have a big presence in the US, Middle East, Africa & Asia. They also serve a large number of cities in Europe, although that may be changing with the rise of low-cost carriers. I think JAL & KLM are big too in this aspect, but probably not as extensive as BA, LH, & AF.
I'm sure there must be a list out there somewhere ranking airlines in terms of how big their route network is. It would be interesting to see which airline, including US airlines, has the largest route network.
ZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5586 posts, RR: 33
Reply 12, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1319 times:
Most european carriers have a lot of international flights. Swiss for example only has few national flights from ZRH to GVA, EAD and LUG (vv). All others are international. They use 128 aircrafts most for international flights, I think they are also in the top list.
SQ772 From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 1812 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1224 times:
SQ's network is relatively limited if you compare them with the European carriers. But within Asia, and if you exclude the domestic networks that most of the asian carriers have, then SQ has a relatively large international network.
Jaysit, from what I see, the American carriers have a very extensive domestic network, but rather limited international network. I guess demand for domestic travel is sufficient to keep them afloat.
RogueTrader From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1171 times:
AM744 says: I don't think it's necessary to exclude US carriers. US is a huge domestic market, no need to go abroad as, say, KLM.
...from what I see, the American carriers have a very extensive domestic network, but rather limited international network...
I know American carriers were removed from the original restriction in the post. However, I have to correct some false assumptions.
There is a misconception that the US carriers are huge domestic airlines but with limited international service. This is false. The below figures are 3 years old and are from Aviation Daily. The US carriers were already top international players and have enhanced their international service since then.
INTERNATIONAL Kms, (not total Kms) 1999
Rank Airline Kilometers
1 British Airways 114,503
2 Lufthansa 80,420
3 Air France 74,599
4 United Airlines 73,944
5 Japan Airlines 65,571
6 Singapore Airlines 64,529
7 American Airlines 60,902
8 KLM 58,095
9 Northwest Airlines 52,887
10 Qantas 44,424
11 Cathay Pacific 41,435
12 Delta Air Lines 40,043
13 Thai Airways 35,057
14 Korean Air Lines 32,266
15 Swissair 31,565
16 Alitalia 29,574
17 Continental Airlines 29,539