Usairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3234 posts, RR: 7 Posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1002 times:
did anyone see the article in todays Inquirer. It gave some good images of the runway proposals made by the airport. the first proposal is to totally rearrange the layout of the airport and make 2 diagonal runway's. i think that is a horrible idea. the 2nd proposal to expand the current runway's and build a new one around the area of the ups facility would be a much better idea. although they might have to relocate the ups facility, the 2nd proposal would be a much better. it would expand the newest runway to 8,000ft, the 2nd commuter runway to 7500ft, then expand 9R-27L to 13000ft, maintain the current length of 9L-27R, and build a new 10000ft runway. that would be 5 runways that would be able to handle a great number of planes. especially when all of the runways will be long enough for rj's
DCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4418 posts, RR: 35 Reply 1, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 965 times:
How did you get those images, Usairways85? I went to the Inquirer and found the story but not the images of the runways. The story did not include them and had no link to any images. Please let us know the address for the images of the runway layouts!
I agree that moving UPS is the best option. Move Sunoco too. That will just need to be included in the cost of building the new runways.
USAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53 Reply 3, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 938 times:
so three parallel runways would occur by moving UPS and putting the fifth runway there...all thatll do is increase the chaos of PHL taxiing....its already a mess as it is...but I guess anywhere they put a runway it wont get any better...
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Lowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 937 times:
I'd actually prefer the first idea. It wouldn't require US to move, and we'd still have the commuter runway 17-35(which could be stretched the 600' in one direction that is in option 2). There wouldn't be as many environmentalists on PHL's @$$ for filling in part of the Deleware river, and UPS wouldn't have to move into the Philadelphia side of the airport. Plus, how much would it cost to shift(basically remake) 9L-27R down that little bit?
Usairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3234 posts, RR: 7 Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 933 times:
it appears to me that in option 1 that the only runways would be the 2 new ones. the existing runways would become taxiways. also in 1 you would have to redesign all of the taxiways at the airport, and it looks like the south end of cargo facilties might need to be relocated.
Lowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 918 times:
us85: scratch emailing them to me. I'm on a different comp which doesn't have the program to upload to my web directory. What you do is set up an account on Yahoo! and get a Geocities web page. Upload the pics onto there, and make a link to that address. IIRC, Geocities doesn't let you export photos onto another site, b/c it takes up bandwidth, so just have the link.
Haveric From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1247 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 903 times:
From all of the trouble the Army Corp of Engineers has had trying to dredge the Delaware to open up a deeper shipping canal, I can only imagine what would happen when PHL tries to fill in part of the river. The least moving of earth the bettter.
I'm sure the battles with Tinicum township will be trouble enough. I wonder if the looked at submerging I-95 or building on the other side of the highway, but I can only imagine what that would cost.
Finally, what about another major airport in Philadelphia? Most other large cities have two airports, and PHL is sooo restricted. Nah, probably not -- but it's nice to dream...
Usairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3234 posts, RR: 7 Reply 13, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 890 times:
i really think they should try to force as many G.A. aircraft as they can to land at Northeast airport. come on the airports arent that far away from each other, maybe getting rid of a few GA flts at phl will ease congestion somewhat
Haveric From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1247 posts, RR: 4 Reply 15, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 885 times:
THey do try to force a lot of GA traffic into Northeast Philly. In fact, GW Bush landed there during the Repub Convention a few years back and Atlantic Aviation has recently spruced up its facilities...
Having said that, I grew up not too far away, and I know that the neighbors are not keen on any expansion there. In the early 90s, when it had a handful of commuter airline flights, there was talk of expansion, but the neighbors quickly silenced that. Too bad too, because it's convenient to highways and isnt that close to homes on most sides. although i used to date a girl just near a runway and it did get loud at times....