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PHL Runway Proposals  
User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3474 posts, RR: 7
Posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1305 times:

did anyone see the article in todays Inquirer. It gave some good images of the runway proposals made by the airport. the first proposal is to totally rearrange the layout of the airport and make 2 diagonal runway's. i think that is a horrible idea. the 2nd proposal to expand the current runway's and build a new one around the area of the ups facility would be a much better idea. although they might have to relocate the ups facility, the 2nd proposal would be a much better. it would expand the newest runway to 8,000ft, the 2nd commuter runway to 7500ft, then expand 9R-27L to 13000ft, maintain the current length of 9L-27R, and build a new 10000ft runway. that would be 5 runways that would be able to handle a great number of planes. especially when all of the runways will be long enough for rj's

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User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4528 posts, RR: 33
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1268 times:

How did you get those images, Usairways85? I went to the Inquirer and found the story but not the images of the runways. The story did not include them and had no link to any images. Please let us know the address for the images of the runway layouts!

I agree that moving UPS is the best option. Move Sunoco too. That will just need to be included in the cost of building the new runways.

Jim




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User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3474 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1250 times:

i noticed that too, it seems like they were only in the actual newspaper. i will try to scan it from my copy of the paper and post it

User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1241 times:

so three parallel runways would occur by moving UPS and putting the fifth runway there...all thatll do is increase the chaos of PHL taxiing....its already a mess as it is...but I guess anywhere they put a runway it wont get any better...

Greg



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User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1240 times:

I'd actually prefer the first idea. It wouldn't require US to move, and we'd still have the commuter runway 17-35(which could be stretched the 600' in one direction that is in option 2). There wouldn't be as many environmentalists on PHL's @$$ for filling in part of the Deleware river, and UPS wouldn't have to move into the Philadelphia side of the airport. Plus, how much would it cost to shift(basically remake) 9L-27R down that little bit?

User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3474 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1241 times:

can anyone tell me how to post a picture i just scanned onto my computer?

User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1234 times:

usairways85: email them to me, and I will post them for you:

c152atn67@yahoo.com


User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3474 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1236 times:

it appears to me that in option 1 that the only runways would be the 2 new ones. the existing runways would become taxiways. also in 1 you would have to redesign all of the taxiways at the airport, and it looks like the south end of cargo facilties might need to be relocated.

User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1229 times:

In option 1, the 'old' runways would still be there as cross runways(with the exception of 8-26), and while part of cargo may need to be moved, that's better than having to move all of UPS.

User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1221 times:

us85: scratch emailing them to me. I'm on a different comp which doesn't have the program to upload to my web directory. What you do is set up an account on Yahoo! and get a Geocities web page. Upload the pics onto there, and make a link to that address. IIRC, Geocities doesn't let you export photos onto another site, b/c it takes up bandwidth, so just have the link.

User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3474 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1218 times:

i was having a problem anyway, ok i have a yahoo account so i will try geocities

User currently offlineHaveric From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1247 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1206 times:

From all of the trouble the Army Corp of Engineers has had trying to dredge the Delaware to open up a deeper shipping canal, I can only imagine what would happen when PHL tries to fill in part of the river. The least moving of earth the bettter.

I'm sure the battles with Tinicum township will be trouble enough. I wonder if the looked at submerging I-95 or building on the other side of the highway, but I can only imagine what that would cost.

Finally, what about another major airport in Philadelphia? Most other large cities have two airports, and PHL is sooo restricted. Nah, probably not -- but it's nice to dream...


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16908 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1193 times:

North Philadelphia airport, open it up to limited short haul business markets like Westchester County airport in White Plains NY.


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User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3474 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1193 times:

i really think they should try to force as many G.A. aircraft as they can to land at Northeast airport. come on the airports arent that far away from each other, maybe getting rid of a few GA flts at phl will ease congestion somewhat

User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16908 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1190 times:

Delaware should also have commercial airline service, preferably to Wilmington.


Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineHaveric From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1247 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1188 times:

THey do try to force a lot of GA traffic into Northeast Philly. In fact, GW Bush landed there during the Repub Convention a few years back and Atlantic Aviation has recently spruced up its facilities...

Having said that, I grew up not too far away, and I know that the neighbors are not keen on any expansion there. In the early 90s, when it had a handful of commuter airline flights, there was talk of expansion, but the neighbors quickly silenced that. Too bad too, because it's convenient to highways and isnt that close to homes on most sides. although i used to date a girl just near a runway and it did get loud at times....

Eric


User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3474 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1146 times:

yeah i have relatives in the northeast and they are not even that close to the airport, just along the landing pattern and i have noticed at some points private jets can get loud

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