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Indian Arlns A300 Loss 7 Weeks Ago(nothingSerious)  
User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Posted (12 years 3 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1171 times:


Hi everybody,

I was quite astonished to notice that Indian Airlines managed to lose their third A300 on March 8 this year. She was taxied into a wall during maintenance and is apparently an economical write off.

Strange that not a word on this accident surfaced in this forum, I mean there are some Indians posting here, aren´t there?

Anyway, thought you might be interested. Here´s a link:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/2002/0203080.htm

Daniel Smile

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User currently offlineAmmunition From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 1065 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 months 4 days ago) and read 1109 times:

Will it make much difference to their schedules e.t.c?
Was it very old? are they probably going to push for the newly ordered planes to be delivered earlier?
I guess its one way to retire the ageing fleet  Big thumbs up



Saint Augustine- 'The world is a book and those who do not travel, read only 1 page'
User currently offlineIndianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1037 times:

It wasnt in any oif the newspapers/TV channels here, nor did any of my sources within IC mention this.

In any ase, the A300's are all betw. 18 to 20 years old and on their way out. The avg utilization of the A300 fleet is just around 6 hours/day (even less in some cases) as more and more flights are shifted to A320's operating with more freq., so i dont schedules would be affected.

Willt ry to wiggle some more info and post asap.

- Roy


User currently offlineIndianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1028 times:

According to Sean (formerly B747-437B):

Aircraft Reg: VT-EFW
Reason: Jumped the chocks during an engine Run-up




User currently offlineT prop From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1023 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1002 times:

This is from a thread at pprune. The link to the photos does not work any more but from what I saw in the pictures the aircraft is BER.
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Attached are 4 photographs of a recent Indian Airlines A300 accident, details of which are as follows:

On 8 March at 0315 hours IAL’s maintenance crew prepared to taxi. From the voice recorder we know that at the time of taxi there were 5 people in the cockpit talking. The A300 is a three man cockpit and it appears that there was a lot of activity just prior to engine start up.

After engine start up both engines went to flight idle. This was due to someone inadvertently pulling the flight idle circuit breaker. Apart from having too much power, being in flight idle also means that you lose nose wheel steering and brakes as they are inhibited. As the aircraft moved off the chocks it started heading directly for the A320 hangars.

On attempting to make the 180 degree turn to the taxi way the crew discovered that they had no steering, they then soon discovered that they had no brakes (the CVR is interesting at this point!).

The A300 had 12 tonnes of fuel on board and with two A320’s in the hangar they decided to take action to avoid the hangars. This they did by trying to reduce power on the number 1 engine (they couldn’t) while increasing power to 90% on the number 2.

The aircraft started to turn and after turning approx.80 degrees they lost control of the aircraft and it went straight through the airport perimeter wall next to the hangars.

The nose wheel collapsed and the aircraft nose dived (with both engines still at flight idle) into the ground. As you can see from the photographs the engines ingested a large amount of rock and soil. Also on impact both pylons buckled at the rear mount position. The aircraft belly has also been ripped away.

Airbus have sent a team to Delhi, their preliminary assessment is that it will cost $13 million to repair not counting the two engines and two complete nacelles. Given that the residual value of a 20 plus year old Indian Airlines A300 is close to zero it is highly likely it will be declared beyond economical repair.

By all accounts the cockpit voice recording for the event is quite comical and will soon be available on the internet joke circuit.




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T prop.


User currently offlineFlyHigh@tom From India, joined Sep 2001, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 981 times:

My God...how do they supress such things from the press?!!!

did not have a clue abt this. Anyway the 300s have done well for IC and should get their rest.

By the way how many 300s are left in service with IC now? heard only 5 or 6 are there. Can anyone confirm?

Rgds,
Thomas.


User currently offlineRmenon From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jun 2001, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 974 times:

Does not appear to be an off-chocks during engine run-up....

It was in the news too:
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/2002/03/09/stories/2002030906281100.htm

Note the "official" version is slightly different than the version from pprune/v1rotate.com  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlineRmenon From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jun 2001, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 971 times:

Photos here:

http://www.aviationpics.de/oops/ia300/page_01.htm


User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 937 times:

Thanks for the input, guys. Looking forward to the CVRecording  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

BTW, sorry, the link I posted was not correct, here´s the correct one:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/2002/020308-0.htm

Daniel Smile


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