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Because Of This, I Dislike The A330  
User currently offlineNBC News1 From UK - England, joined May 2001, 324 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 4012 times:

I don't know about you, but I've come to associate the A330 with cheap charter carriers (most with ugly colour schemes).

It seems like every time I see a picture of an A330, it's some new European charter.

I guess it means the plane is successful since it's with so many majors and so many oddballs......but still.

When I think of the A330, I think of something disgustingly ugly like Eidelweiss.


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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3483 times:

Delsey/ VG Airlines is not a charter airline.


Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6621 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3432 times:

How about all the 737s that are with charter carriers, crappy airlines with bad safety records, ugly schemes etc...? Do you dislike those too?

I really like the Edelweiss scheme. I think it's really nice.


User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3155 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3361 times:
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I think you'll be one of very few who don't like the Edelweiss colors...

Konstantin



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User currently offlineKHI747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3312 times:

I always see Edelweiss A330's at ZRH....always found them to be a rather nice livery....
I dont think that a real reason to dislike the A330  Smile.....think of the hundreds of A330's operating for so many mainstream airlines...its actually the backbone for many carriers and has proven to be a very sucessful plane by all measures...it has to a great extent taken the B767 market by storm...personally i think its a very attractive plane also...


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3294 times:

Another smart 16-20 year old Amercian.

So all A330's fly for crappy charter carriers ??

Cathay Pacific
DragonAir
Korean Air
Philippine Airlines
Thai
Malaysian
US Airways
Qantas (soon)
KLM (soon)
SWISS
Emirates
Gulfair
Khalifa
Air France
TAM
British Midland
SAS (soon)


etc.....

Does the 747-400 suck because it's flown in some bad schemes  Nuts  Nuts  Nuts


User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3258 times:

you are the first person I have ever heard of that even wnet so far as saying they didn't think the Edelweiss colours were great, not to mention ugly. Swissair flew them and Swiss flies them... as does AF. It shows it is a great plane. A very well rounded plane.

Also I think the VG colours (not a charter) look very nice. great job air orange.


User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 7, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3209 times:

SriLankan Airlines flies them too...!


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User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3198 times:

so does USair and Air Canada

User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3196 times:

When I think of the A330 I associate it with world class airlines like Emirates (largest operator of A332), Cathay (largest operator of A333), Swiss, Thai Airways, Air France, Austrian, bmi, Gulf Air, TAM, US Airways, Air Canada. Not to forget other scheduled carriers.


I have never seen such a ridiculous post, NBC.


Regards
Udo


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3107 times:

My only beef with the A330 (and all Airbuses, actually) is that their high floor level (in order to provide more space for cargo) ensures that the roofline slopes inward drastically in the cabin. Which means, if you in an outboard toilet, and are a male higher than 5 feet tall, you pretty much have to be a contortionist to take a piss!

Charles


User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3082 times:

I had the pleasure of parking up alongside the Edelweiss A330 in Puerto Plata last Summer, and I must say I think it is the best looking livery I have seen.

I have always liked the look of it in photos, but in the flesh it's quite an impressive sight.



I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9906 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3059 times:

The Edelweiss livery indeed is a great livery which attracts attention immediately. I have to agree with the rest that NBC's arguments are based on nothing. The A330 is a good aircraft, taking over the 767 market if Boeing does not come up with something new. Let us discuss good topics. Disliking an aircaft because of its livery, is pure BS.

User currently offlineSAS-A321 From Denmark, joined Mar 2002, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3035 times:

Premiair/Airtours colors are very nice for an charter airline! That new MyTravel colors is not my taste.


It's Scandinavian
User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 14, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2983 times:

I can't quite comprehend why someone dislikes an aircraft type because of some of its airline users.
 Confused

Is there a lack of logical thinking on MY side or...?
 Nuts



Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineTurbineBeaver From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2973 times:

I am an avid Boeing fan, but find the A330 to be a great airliner!!

Are Premiair and AirTours related? It seems like they have the same livery, can anyone explain please?

TB


User currently offlineNBC News1 From UK - England, joined May 2001, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2992 times:

I'm different than you guys are, I don't judge a plane by its performance or its seat pitch, I just love the way it looks. With the A330, it's already difficult enough (in my mind) for a colour scheme to look good on it....I find that wings don't really go with the aircraft....their too flimsy and long. I find it looks its worst at take-off or landing when its wings are all stickin' up in the air.

Edeilweiss may be different and grabs your attention, BUT it's SO UGLY! It's too busy for me. I've never bee a fan of billboard titles.

and I'm Canadian.....ACTUALLY!!!!!!!!


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2963 times:

Well if I wanted to put my foot in it I would say......

Canadian / American, whats the difference !!!  Laugh out loud  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineVapourTrails From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 1268 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2952 times:
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I like the Edelweiss scheme! Smile/happy/getting dizzy I don't dislike the A330 either!! I associate it with airlines such as Emirates and Cathay.

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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 19, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2914 times:

I think everything is said to this topic, but when you judge an aircraft from how it looks, the 330-200 is one of the most elegant. This hudge wingspan in comparison to the length of the fuselage together with its winglets makes it absolutly elegant (like an eagle). I think it is, at the moment the only airliner, which has a larger wingspan then length (60.30 meters wingspan to 58.37 meters overall length).

User currently offlineVref From Canada, joined Jan 2002, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2875 times:

I saw that Edelweiss aircraft last summer in Varadaro. Do they have more than one paint scheme on there 330's? We paid the crew a compliment on the colors.
Hey NBC News1. The third picture in your origional post is an X-Canada 3000 plane incase you are interested.



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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 21, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2871 times:

Edelweiss has only one 330 and because of this only one paint scheme, the same they have on their three 320.

User currently offlineGlider From Belgium, joined Feb 2001, 297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 2849 times:

Cheap charter airlines??? Did you know SNBA has started their operations with A332 since Friday? As far as I know SNBA isn't a charter company. And I also think the colours are quite good!

I think the A330 in general is a great plane. In my opinion one of the best.

Glider


User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 2814 times:

I am a big Boeing fan. The A330-300 is my least favorite widebody aircraft. But strangely I think the A330-200 in Air France colors is an outstanding looking airplane. It is aesthetically pleasing.

User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 2775 times:

I think the A330 is best of the Airbus line--very versatile.

However, I too, think the Edelweiss livery is one of the wost out there...


25 PROSA : I don't know about you, but I've come to associate the A330 with cheap charter carriers (most with ugly colour schemes). Look at it this way, those "c
26 Gerardo : ZRH said it very well: the long and elegant wings, in combination with the also elegant fuselage make the A332 an outstanding looking aircraft. There
27 Ups763 : The A330 is one of the most elegant aircraft in the world and the Eldelweiss paint is absolutley beautiful. dont know what your talking about NBC News
28 Hkniceguy : "I don't judge a plane by its performance or its seat pitch, I just love the way it looks." > So is that mean you don't judge a car by its performance
29 Manni : Glider, SNBA started operations with the A330-300 not the A330-200. But, like you all know, Sabena operated the A330-200. That aircraft together with
30 Post contains links and images TransSwede : I agree with others, the A330 is definately the most graceful and beautiful airliner flying today! View Large View MediumPhoto © Jonathan Simmons
31 Rootsgirl : Well, judging by your age in your profile, it is highly unlikely that you have ever flown on all of the airlines that you so "expertly" trash. Skyserv
32 Hkniceguy : I think NBC dislike ALL KIND of aircrafts, because all kind of aircraft operate for charter. Here are some of the best aircraft operate for charter: B
33 Funny : I agree with UDO, this is a ridiculous post. Whats wrong about having so many A330s in a charter airline. Think about all the prestigious airlines tha
34 RayChuang : I can kind of understand what NBC News1 is talking about. The reason why the A330-200 is very popular with European charter airlines is the fact that
35 Post contains images Hkgspotter1 : I think you will find he's smoking something..........
36 Post contains links and images Mcringring : I think the 330 looks really cheap in most of those charter liveries. A perfect example: View Large View MediumPhoto © Barrie Higham Of course th
37 9V-SVC : Personally i Love A330s and the aircraft looks good in almost every scheme so far . This is a strange topic if you ask me . How can you dislike the ai
38 Post contains images EGGD : I find that wings don't really go with the aircraft....their too flimsy and long. I find it looks its worst at take-off or landing when its wings are
39 Brains : Eidelweiss a/c are beautiful. You find A330's to have poor color schemes, flying for second rate charter carriers? I find posts like yours to be ignor
40 C172Akula : Hkniceguy: I think if you compare teenagers all over the world you'll find that they all know nothing. And claim to know everything. And for the recor
41 BWIA330 : The A330 has to be the best selling aircraft and most popular in the market these days, especially after september 11th, the A330 has opened new doors
42 Kaitakfan : While we are on the topic of the A330 and paint jobs. I must voice my view on the British Midland scheme looking outstanding on the A330 as with Catha
43 Post contains images Englandair : How about all the 737s that are with charter carriers, crappy airlines with bad safety records, ugly schemes etc...? Do you dislike those too? Would y
44 Post contains images Gerardo : HKniceguy, you're wrong. Judging by your list, he must be an A340 fan: Canada 3000 doesn't exist anymore and I don't remember another A340 charter ope
45 Post contains links and images ZRH : It would be the same, if I said that I dislike the 777 because it looks like a fat, plump sausage. But it is a very good aircraft as well, perhapps no
46 Englandair : Is Air Lib still a charter airline? They operate A340s Gerado.
47 Ual777contrail : how can you bash a guy for his opinion? if he dislikes the a330, who cares. the A330 looks good in many liverys and some he mentioned i thought do loo
48 Patroni : Hmm.. so Edelweiss is a "cheap Charter carrier" ? I am not Swiss myself, so I consider myself unbiased, but I would just suggest that you once fly Ede
49 CX747 : I love how we all go opinion bashing. It's his OPINION fellas. So, let him have it. Just like some of the posters who have attacked him have opinions
50 Transactoid : I don't have a problem with the A330, but I must agree that the Edelweise scheme ain't that pertty.
51 Sabena 690 : Hey, Like Manni already pointed out, VG Airlines is not a charter airline, and the same goes for SN Brussels Airlines/Birdy. And, by the way, the colo
52 Post contains links and images Sabena332 : Like Manni said too, nothing can beat the Sabena livery. I agree, but the "old" one is my favorite: View Large View MediumPhoto © Remi Dallot Pat
53 Post contains links and images Englandair : And also.... What's wrong with charter airlines?!?!?! I personally think that the service onboard the UKs charters is better than on sheduled airlines
54 Post contains images Sabena 690 : Hey Patrick, What do you think of this pictures : Simply the best Regards, Frederic
55 Sabena332 : Hey Frederic, also a very nice livery, I like it too. Do you know why SN changed the livery from bright into dark colours? >Some air traffic controler
56 Trickijedi : Regardless of livery, the A330 is a great plane. It's slowly becoming one of my all-time favs. I think the plane should be your judge for whether you
57 Red Panda : Even tho I see TSC planes every night at T3 yyz, I did not find them too ugly. But now, in compared to other A330s, TSC has the ugliest livery among.
58 Dutchwings : Well it is more succesful than 767 i guess hehehe
59 Sabena332 : Trickijedi is correct, the A 330 is also my favorite plane. It is has a very quite cabin noise during the flight and it is also a very spacious plane.
60 Trickijedi : Just to let you know that the Cathay Pacific A330 is my current wallpaper. Great plane AND great livery!
61 Post contains images MIAspotter : like the fat guy on the Simpsons says "WORST POST EVER!" :dd Anyway NBC book a flight on the A330 first and then you can come and diss the A330 all yo
62 NBC News1 : I didn't mean to convey the message that the A330 was a bad aircraft, I'm just saying that lately, it seems that all the orders for the aircraft have
63 IMissPiedmont : Backpeddle as fast as you can. You said you "hate" the A330, not once, but twice. First it was because of the Edelweiss colors and then, because the w
64 Thumper : Hey hkgspotter1 is there anybody else you are prejudice against besides American's and Canadians?
65 IMissPiedmont : Sorry. You said you dislike the A330. My mistake.
66 NWA742 : Ah, Hkgspotter1, the usual anti-American BS coming from you, please world, bring me something new.
67 Post contains links and images Zebfly2 : NBC-I don't know what planet you came from, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder! I happen to like the color scheme of Edelwiss's A330 and 320's.
68 Kaitak : The fact that a significant number of charter airlines (and there are more apart from the ones photographed - Corsair and Volare, to name two) choose
69 YXDfan : So if WestJet had an A330 with, say, Denim curtains... would you feel threatened? Hypothetical situation, of course...
70 Post contains images Gerardo : @Englandair: YEP! Air Lib operates A343. But I'm not sure, if they are a charter airline, or not. I think, they have both: charter and scheduled opera
71 Post contains images 707CMF : I have to admit I never paid a lot of attention to the A330 - just another all so common two-holer, did I thought. And then I saw some of the photos y
72 Post contains images Hkg82 : I don't understand your reason for disliking the A330, but I respect it. However, the fact that A330 is popular with both charter airlines & the major
73 Jedtai : God, Zebfly2, that Southwest Orca scheme just became my all-time fav!! Just gorgeous.
74 Hoons90 : A330 is my favourite plane. A330 is a big success not only to the Charter community but also with the major airlines community. Long Live A330!
75 Airman99o : I like the Majority of the colour schemes here that you have posted. SkyService, AirTours, Premiair are all very similar but with Dirfferent tail sche
76 Sabena 690 : Hello Patrick, Send me a mail and I will explain you why Sabena changed his livery. Regards, Frederic
77 N79969 : The Edelweiss livery is not a crime but should be. America West has fouled up a few 757s as well. Southwest's special liveries are limited to state fl
78 Post contains links and images Jofa : This one looks absolutely wonderful: View Large View MediumPhoto © Alexander Jonsson I'm really looking forward to seeing an A330 in full SAS col
79 DC-10 Levo : Airtours have a perfectly good livery. I think so anyway! DC-10
80 Boeing757/767 : I hate to get involved in this stinky post, but let me set the record straight: There ARE differences between Canada and the US and Canadians and Amer
81 Rootsgirl : NBC Newes1 States: I flew on an Air Canada A330 in March 2001 and I thought it was great (especially cause Air Canada had little personal TV's). I tho
82 Joelo88 : i think airtours is nice too. when i was doing my instrument training at comair acedemy in sanford florida, i used to see those 330's coming in all th
83 IMissPiedmont : And that would be a checkmate for Rootsgirl.
84 Coronado : Any speculation on what the NWA A-330's will look like? Is Mr. Anderson going to change the current fuselage color scheme when the new 330's and 757-3
85 NBC News1 : Give me a break. I never said my opinions were expert. I never said that the fact that I've only flown scheduled means I'm better than you. When I was
86 AIH033 : Sorry but you obviously do not know what you are talking about! Air Canada's livery is not anything special. How dare you imply that Airtours is a che
87 Rootsgirl : NBC News1, you wrote "Because of this I feel threatened on behalf of the majors from these low-fare carriers. I've developed a strong love for the maj
88 N79969 : Canada? Is that where they make Ginger Ale? Dry Ginger Ale?
89 Aviatsiya.ru : Delsey/ VG Airlines is not a charter airline. I don't think it is even an airline....period.
90 Desert_dweller : its ridiculous to hate the plane becuase of some airline's paint jobs. that must mean u practically hate all planes because many airlines have ugly li
91 Manni : Aviatsiya.ru, Well they've leased aircraft, have hired crew, have applied for the necessary documents and intend to start flying on the 20th of may. W
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