Former747pilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1706 times:
United Airlines will launch its first scheduled service between Chicago's O'Hare International Airport and Milan, Italy on Oct. 28th, 2002.
The new daily nonstop flight increases to 11 the number of international destinations served nonstop by United from Chicago.
"We are very excited to add Milan to the roster of five European destinations served nonstop by United from its hometown," said Stuart Oran, United Airlines senior vice president-international.
United will operate the daily nonstop flight to Milan with Boeing 777 aircraft configured with 12 suites in United First, 49 seats in United Business and 231 seats in United Economy.
The schedule for United's new flight between Chicago and Milan is as follows:
UA 988 will depart from Chicago at 5:35 p.m. and arrive in Milan at 9:25 a.m. the following day.
UA 987 will depart from Milan at 11:15 a.m. (beginning Oct. 29) and will arrive in Chicago at 2:25 p.m. The new service is timed to permit convenient connections for passengers originating their travel between the U.S. Midwest and the West Coast.
United already serves Milan daily from Washington Dulles.
Chicago is the number one U.S. buisness city for Italy. The route has had a lack of service since AA dropped it Nov. 2001.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31730 posts, RR: 72 Reply 2, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1531 times:
Alitalia flies ORD-MXP daily. I am surprised they are launching ORD-MXP over SFO-MXP. SFO has a large Italian population and no non-stop links. They announced SFO-MXP a while ago but it never surfaced. None the less, ORD does offer more connection oppurtunites. The US-Italy market is getting a boost this summer:
EWR-FCO 2x daily
EWR-MXP 2x daily
JFK-FCO 3x daily
JFK-MXP 2x daily
ORD-MXP 2x daily
New flights to ORD, ATL, and CVG; increased flights to PHL, EWR, and JFK. But SFO and LAX are gone.
Airblue From San Marino, joined May 2001, 1825 posts, RR: 12 Reply 6, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1485 times:
That's a good news for Milan MXP.
After that some flights to US were dropped, like ORD by AA, SFO and LAX by AZ, now this new UA service with B772 plus the new DL/AZ to ATL. And very soon AZ increase flight to Japon with NRT from 5 to 10 weekly flights and KIX from 3 to 5 weekly flights.
ScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1456 times:
This is great news to hear from United Airlines were did got new nonstop from ORD-MXP flight and Why doesn't not use flying nonstop from ORD-FCO/IAD-FCO flight on UA flight yet. They need get beefing up with a passengers to do try get more increase flight to Italy. Well, let you guys think about it as for future by the new nonstop. Thanks!!
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7860 posts, RR: 5 Reply 8, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1450 times:
I think MXP-SFO-MXP will return once AZ gets enough 777-200ER's.
The reason is simple: unlike the 767-300(ER) AZ used earlier, the 772ER doesn't have payload restrictions flying MXP-SFO, so the plane can carry a substantial cargo load (which makes WAY more money for AZ than pax). Don't be surprised if this route is revived by the Spring of 2003.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31730 posts, RR: 72 Reply 11, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1432 times:
Padcrasher, it really depends. Italy attracts a lot of low-yielding tourists, but it has some very high-yielding traffic to make up for it. Chicago and Boston have the Italian communities, Miami has the fashion industry, Atlanta has connections from every US city that the flight is bound to fill up in front, and NYC is NYC. Though I guess your probably right in saying it's break-even, but US carriers seem to be expecting a good summer to Italy this year.
Airblue From San Marino, joined May 2001, 1825 posts, RR: 12 Reply 14, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1371 times:
Milan has a lot of room for new non-stop flights to US.
Today over the 50% of Milan business traveller to US, use to fly via FRA,ZRH,MUC,AMS,CPH and LHR (I don't consider CDG cause of the AF/AZ deal).
So I expect one day AA will go back, maybe to JFK in spite of ORD, and also NW from DTW.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31730 posts, RR: 72 Reply 16, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1355 times:
Airblue, if AA goes back, I wouldn't be expect JFK. Already has three carriers. I wouldn't be surprised to see it from MIA, since MIA-MXP has a lot of fashion industry traffic and I'm sure they want a piece of that market that Alitalia controls. Plus the Brazil connections. DFW also would not surprise me. Milan could use a connection to another major hub. The connection possiblities are endless. Alitalia will probably be back on LAX-MXP and SFO-MXP within two years. I wouldn't expect Northwest back, however. They have AMS to feed to MXP.
ChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3913 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1306 times:
I am quite surprised that it's a 777 rather than a 767-300. They must know what they are doing, though. In my book, ORD-Milan qualifies as a sort of 'long-and-thin' route. Here on the Boston-Heathrow route UA uses a 767-300, and I would have expected by now they'd bump it up to a 777 (like AA has). But I guess the reason they haven't is because there's already plenty of capacity on this run with BA fielding 2 747-400s and a 777; Virgin a 747-400; AA with a 777 and a 767-300. The need for something bigger may just not be there for UAL on the BOS-LHR route. Although with some fanfair a few years back UA noted that they were re-doing their terminal at Logan and that some gates would be redesigned to accept the 777. Thus far, nary a UA 777 anywhere to be seen here, save for the occasional medical/operational divert.
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7179 posts, RR: 29 Reply 22, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1207 times:
ORD-FCO comes back May 1st for summer seasonal service on a 763.
ORD-MXP, a sucessful route for nearly 10 years was cut post-9/11.
On NW, DTW-FCO returns summer seasonal on the DC-10. DTW-MXP didn't last long, it made it one summer. There was much hype to launch of DTW-FCO & DTW-MXP for summer 2000. The MXP route flopped fast and was taken off that fall. FCO made it to stay summer seasonal.