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User currently offlineIbizajet A330 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2828 times:

America West Will be Flying to Edmonton In a Couple of months As America West Express. They Will Fly CRJs on this route.. This Information is from a Reliable Source.

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User currently offlineMEL From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 1098 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2686 times:

PHX-YEG on a CRJ... oh my god... that is painfully long. DEN-YEG already blocks in at over 2.5 hours. PHX-YEG must be over 3.5 hours. Is this possible without taking serious weight restrictions?


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User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2277 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2680 times:

Will it be with CRJ-200's or CRJ-700's? I would think that on a flight that long, it would be one of the first routes to see a CRJ-700.

User currently offlineIbizajet A330 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2656 times:

I think it could be one of the CRJ-700. Im not sure though

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User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3253 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2640 times:

Calgary would make more sense initially. What is this "Reliable Source"?



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User currently offlineMEL From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 1098 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

I should hope they would use the CRJ-700, and I hope they offer inflight service (meals) if they actually do decide to offer the route. In comparison to other ultra-long routes offered by RJs....


YEG-PHX 1374 mi - sends shivers down my spine
PVD-MSP 1116 mi (used to be offered by Express CRJs for NW)
LGA-XNA 1146 mi (AA Eagle route - ERJ-135)
JAX-MSP 1173 mi (NW Airlink - Express CRJ route)




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User currently offlineAWA22 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2621 times:

CRJ's are bad, and I hope that HP pilots can get a good scope clause in their next contract that will help eliminate some of the RJ use. Airlines are going way overboard on the use of RJ's. They need to grow the right way using mainline jets with mainline employees.

User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2592 times:

AWA22 ... CRJ's are excellent for developing new markets. AWA would probably never consider such a route using A319, the investment is too big and the immidiate earning potential too low. However using CRJ's you are building up a customer base and brand knowledge that may open for a 'real' AWA flight later should the passenger load justify it.
So looking a little bit long term this benefits also HP pilots, not just the company



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User currently offlineYwg777 From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 1264 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2596 times:

Where is your source? Does Americia west have any other cities in Canada in the workds to serve?
I would think YYC would be well before YEG. But you never know.
please inform me.

Shawn


User currently offlineSamurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2458 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2588 times:

Ibizajet A330,

I hope your source is "reliable" enough. I haven't seen anything in HP's site about any new service to Canadian destinations. I find it weird that YEG would get any new transborder service before YYC does. Usually it's the other way around, or not at all.

I've been on a CRJ (AC YYZ-YUL) once before, and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. But that was only an hour-long flight.

Matthew,

What's the longest route you've ever been on in a CRJ? And how comfortable was it (or uncomfortable, given how you cringe at the thought of a YEG-PHX route)?


User currently offlineLubicon From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2566 times:

A couple of notes:

1. They also have a hub in Las Vegas so maybe the route wold be YEG-LAS, not Phoenix. Would make it a littl shorter. (1192 vs 1374 miles). That puts it into RJ range (barely). AA is flying DFW-BOI in an RJ (1272 miles)

2. Air Canada flies (or flew - not sure if they discontinued it or not already) YYC-Phoenix and maybe LAS too. AW would have to compete against that whereas they would have YEG to themselves.

3. That's still a very long haul in an RJ.

4. I doubt YEG can support this route.



User currently offlineAfitch7881 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 815 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2552 times:

"PVD-MSP 1116 mi (used to be offered by Express CRJs for NW)"

This route is still being flown with 1 daily CRJ.


User currently offlinePlaneawesome From Canada, joined Sep 2000, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2527 times:

Last week I flew LAS-CIN on a B-757 and then CIN-YUL on a Canadair RJ.

The RJ was much, and I mean much more comfortable than the Boeing where I sat in row 25 (in front of the exit aisle) and could not recline my seat. Of course the person in front of me was on max recline for the whole trip.

The RJ (50 pax) was not only more spacious for me but it enplaned, deplaned and delivered the baggage much more quickly than the B-757 (200 pax).

I was more than pleasantly surprised with the RJ.


User currently offlineLasbagman From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2521 times:

Air Canada has discontinued the flight from YYC to LAS
for a few months, it should resume in the fall
on A320 equipment


User currently offlineIbizajet A330 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2517 times:

My reliable source is from a person who Works At YEG


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User currently offlineMEL From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 1098 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2501 times:

ORD-JAX is the longest CRJ route I've flown. It was about 2 hours long. I pulled up the block time on Air Canada's PHX-YYC route, and it was about 3hrs 5mins, so PHX-YEG would be about 3hrs 30mins, which is a little to long in my mind. Such long flights on the RJs get boring - no entertainment, and usually no meal service. NW changed eqpt on MSP-PVD-MSP to A319s (2 daily) from April 7.



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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7760 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2489 times:

You can be flying on a much bigger plane and get no entertainment and no meal service... So CRJ or not, I think that point is irrelevant. You can be on an AA MD-80 on ORD-PHX for example... 3 and a half hours... no movie, no audio and a bistro bag.

I've flown PHX-EUG-PHX... which tops out a little over 2 hours and I thought it was fine. The CRJ is a much more spacious aircraft than you would think... even with somebody sitting next to you. Plus it is far quieter in the cabin than any mainline jet I have flown on. If the demand for n/s service from YEG to PHX is there... then it will do well (remember I did say IF). And I believe on longer flights they will need to provision some sort of meal... probably cold stuff (like CO's famously small turkey or ham sandwiches). As for entertainment, that is what the inflight magazine is for.



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User currently offlineYwg777 From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 1264 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2487 times:

A Americia West CRJ YEG-LAS would make sense as its only about a 2.5 hour flight and alot of AW's connections take place in LAS but the majority take place in the PHX hub. Does anyone else know if AW is attempting to compete with NW in their expansion to Canada? Also do they have any other cities they are looknig at besides YEG?

Shawn


User currently offlineC172Akula From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 998 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2480 times:

I would really doubt that this route would be going to YEG. Just doesn't seem to make sense to myself, but I could be wrong.

The longest RJ flight I had was from SLC-YYC and that was more than long enough for my liking. I recently flew the CRJ-700 from SEA-YYC and that plane I could see making a 3+hr flight somewhat bearable.

But I would look to see YYC served before YEG, no offense to any edmontonians here!


User currently offlineLubicon From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2473 times:

What are you referring to when you say NW is expanding their Canadian service?? I've only heard about YOW gaining some RJ service (replacing the S340) and Calgary getting a summer YYC-DTW flight. Is their some other stuff I missed?

User currently offlineDuncan From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2458 times:

My Geography's not too hot, but how about CMH to YEG. I know AmWest uses the RJ's a lot out of their CMH hub. Would this be a shorter route and more reasonable market suited for the RJ?

User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3253 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2437 times:

CMH-YEG is 1712 miles: completely disasterous for an RJ


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User currently offlineDuncan From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2441 times:

Yep, I told you my geography was bad. Embarrassment  Insane

Duncan


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