Dragogoalie From Australia, joined Oct 2001, 1220 posts, RR: 7 Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2713 times:
Yes and no. They are really two very different aircraft. The one thing I really like about the SC is that it will be more economical then the concorde allowing people other than millionares to fly it. But the sC will not come anywhere close to matching the concorde when it comes to speed.
Eddy Cheuk From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2001, 25 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2693 times:
Concorde is the classic supersonic civil jet. how can they replaced by the others? Even Concorde is old now, but I still love these speedbirds, esp the British Airways Concorde. Long life the Concorde !!!
Arsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7791 posts, RR: 23 Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2699 times:
Nothing will replace the Concorde, it's a prestigous and unique plane, a symbol of style,wealth,speed and power. But i hope the sonic cruiser becomes a reality, the speed of sound looks exciting to me!
TransSwede From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 993 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2672 times:
First, lets see if the SC ever becomes reality. I want to see specs, a launch customer, and a launch date before that questions can even be considered.
Gordonroxburgh From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 550 posts, RR: 21 Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2610 times:
Probably not:
Being British what really make Concorde Special is what the UK and France managed to achieve against all the odds, both technically and poiltically.
Concorde no matter how knocked it is always bounces back - A "Technological Icarus" as many have been heard to say.
Yes the SC may have similar stunning looks but what makes Concorde Special is not just the physical appearence of the aircraft but the Human story behind it: Be it the people that created it, worked on it, travelled on it, operate it today or just turn up to see it; for all of them it is really something special, something to be proud of.
Klaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 20850 posts, RR: 55 Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2608 times:
Gordonroxburgh: Concorde no matter how knocked it is always bounces back - A "Technological Icarus" as many have been heard to say.
Didn´t you mean phoenix? Icarus burnt, crashed and died, if I remember correctly...
Gordonroxburgh: Yes the SC may have similar stunning looks but what makes Concorde Special is not just the physical appearence of the aircraft but the Human story behind it: Be it the people that created it, worked on it, travelled on it, operate it today or just turn up to see it; for all of them it is really something special, something to be proud of.
Definitely! Even if the SC will be a fantastic achievement on its own if they actually manage to pull it off.
Gordonroxburgh: Gordon (Webmaster - www.concordesst.com)
Ual777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2594 times:
well hell yes it will, i dont think the concorde is all that great.i dont live in NYC or CHICAGO WE dont get to see the concorde and when i have? not that awesome. it was cool, even when the SC comes out it wont be as cool as a 777 or a 747.IMO
J.mo From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 640 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2580 times:
I really don't understand how a person can be an aviation enthusiast and NOT want a whole new airframe to become reality. They can't keep stretching 737's and A340's forever!
How exciting it will be to get away from the design we have had for 50 years. As far as the Concorde goes, it is a really neat airplane, I will never fly on it. Nobody wanted it so the French and British had to eat it. Sorry,
Jeremy
What is the difference between Fighter pilots and God? God never thought he was a fighter pilot.
IMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6201 posts, RR: 43 Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2585 times:
Might I point the naysayers to the Barrons issue from May, 1? Looks more and more likely that the CS will become reality.
As for the original question. The Concorde,as well as the 747, will be the most recognized aircraft for most of our lives. I intentinally avoid mentinoning it having a place in my heart. Besides the obvious technical aspects, I really don't care much for it.
What is it with all the "is there a possibilty airline X will.." threads? The answer it'll is possible.
Commander Data From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 46 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2569 times:
Since I hate Boeing I hate the Sonic Crusier. I cannot stand the way it looks. It sucks the whole look, and feel out of an airplane. I personally I love the Concorde, not as much as the DC-9, or MD-80, but its pretty high up there.
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 12707 posts, RR: 80 Reply 18, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2554 times:
Lets see, Mach 0.98 or Mach 2.02?
Gordon's right, the Concorde story is an aviation soap-opera classic.
It was probably the last major airliner designed without substantial computer aids.
It could have sold better, but bad luck in timing (the 1970's oil crisis), and an element of 'Not Invented Here' from across the Atlantic, (after the B2707 got axed), very nearly made it a stillborn project, along with the usual British habit of cancelling projects.
In that respect Concorde showed the way forward, European collaboration was the only way for the UK to still be a player in airliner construction-even that lesson took some time to sink in.
Every time the aircraft roars into the air, to me it's like giving all those who tried to stop it the finger.
The SC is coming into a very different political and economic enviroment.
I just hope those who board it don't expect a 3.5 hour trip across the Atlantic!
(Boeing will probably call it the world's fastest airliner!)
Of course the SC will be a much more versatile, flexible aircraft.
It will be interesting to see if later versions will be capable of Mach 1.2 or thereabouts.
VapourTrails From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2553 times:
No - never!
Mach 0.98 or Mach 2.02? Well, that says it all!
Concorde is special, and a Mach 0.98 SC is not that much of a big deal to me. I may feel differently in the future, but nothing will replace the unique qualities of Concorde for many, many years - if ever.
Backfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2537 times:
IMHO the romanticism that surrounds Concorde just disguises the fact that it was a commercial failure, built simply to avoid political fall-out, written off at considerable expense to the taxpayer, with design flaws that were ignored despite repeated warnings.
Sure, it looks pretty. But there are other aircraft which, for my money, have earned their success.
Jmc757 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 1296 posts, RR: 8 Reply 21, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2517 times:
"The one thing I really like about the SC is that it will be more economical....."
Don't get me wrong i repesct your viewpoint, but come on. These aircraft are nearly 40 years apart! of course the SC will be a lot more economic, look at the technological advances since concorde was designed!!
It'll always be concorde for me
"...and an element of 'Not Invented Here' from across the Atlantic, (after the B2707 got axed), ..."
Arsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7791 posts, RR: 23 Reply 23, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2498 times:
IMHO the romanticism that surrounds Concorde just disguises the fact that it was a commercial failure, built simply to avoid political fall-out, written off at considerable expense to the taxpayer, with design flaws that were ignored despite repeated warnings.
Yes, but which other airliner flies at Mach 2 at 60,000 feet?
Shamrock_747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2502 times:
I think Concorde is a very special plane. If 27L/R is being used for landings at LHR I go into my back garden at around 5pm and watch BA002 fly over - I never get bored of seeing her! I find it amazing that the plane I'm looking at was in New York 3 hours ago. I think the SC will be a very exciting aircraft, but nothing could ever replace Concorde in my heart.
Shamrock_747
25 Donder10: Wouldn't a more apprioate question be:Will the SC replace the 767-300ER in your heart?
26 J.mo: It sounds as if people hate the SC just for the fact it may take attention away from their beloved Concorde. It's ok, you don't have to hate it just b
27 GDB: What serious design flaws, (the grounding reeked of politics, modifications had to be made, name me an aircraft that hasn't happened to), but usually
28 Arsenal@LHR: It sounds as if people hate the SC just for the fact it may take attention away from their beloved Concorde. It's ok, you don't have to hate it just b
29 J.mo: I agree there is only one Concorde only because nobody bought it. If there were 1000 Concordes around it would not be that special. The only real comp
30 Arsenal@LHR: Just like the fact that there will only be only one 747, no matter how good the A380 is.
31 J.mo: Arsenal@LHR, I guess I am agreeing with you but I am also trying to point how "special" the SC will be in it's own right. My main focus is on the peop
32 Arsenal@LHR: Ofcourse, the SC will be a plane in it's own right, a unique plane with a unique design. It's not too constructive to compare SC to the Concorde, in a
33 Leezyjet: I've always wondered why, when the Concorde design so oviously works, it has never occurred to Airbus to upgrade/update it. The max seating capacity f
34 N79969: The Concorde is distinct, special aircraft. It is cool looking and a landmark achievement in aviation. The SC will be economical but cannot call itsel
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