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Will SC Replace Concorde In Your Heart?  
User currently offlineF.pier From Italy, joined Aug 2000, 1524 posts, RR: 9
Posted (12 years 5 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3502 times:

In another topic there is the question if the 380 will replace the 747.

What about the SC.

Despite it's not as fast as Concorde, I think the Concorde is "THE PLANE".

I don't think the SC will replace it in the hearts.

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User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (12 years 5 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3401 times:

LOL, let´s wait and see whether the Pacific Fragmenter will be ever built (which I doubt).

Daniel Smile


User currently offlineDragogoalie From Australia, joined Oct 2001, 1220 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (12 years 5 months 3 days ago) and read 3379 times:

Yes and no. They are really two very different aircraft. The one thing I really like about the SC is that it will be more economical then the concorde allowing people other than millionares to fly it. But the sC will not come anywhere close to matching the concorde when it comes to speed.

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User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 5 months 3 days ago) and read 3364 times:

Daniel,

Thats what I wanted to say !


User currently offlineEddy Cheuk From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2001, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 5 months 3 days ago) and read 3359 times:

Concorde is the classic supersonic civil jet. how can they replaced by the others? Even Concorde is old now, but I still love these speedbirds, esp the British Airways Concorde. Long life the Concorde !!!

User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months 3 days ago) and read 3365 times:
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Nothing will replace the Concorde, it's a prestigous and unique plane, a symbol of style,wealth,speed and power. But i hope the sonic cruiser becomes a reality, the speed of sound looks exciting to me!

Arsenal@LHR



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User currently offlineTransSwede From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3338 times:

First, lets see if the SC ever becomes reality. I want to see specs, a launch customer, and a launch date before that questions can even be considered.

User currently offlineMika From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 2881 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3328 times:

I hope it doesn't become reality.

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13744 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3317 times:

Not in the slightest! No!


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User currently offlineVoodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2079 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3306 times:

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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21480 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3292 times:

The only thing the SC has in common with Concorde is a (very) superficial similarity in shape. I don´t see how they relate otherwise...

User currently offlineGordonroxburgh From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 550 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3276 times:

Probably not:

Being British what really make Concorde Special is what the UK and France managed to achieve against all the odds, both technically and poiltically.

Concorde no matter how knocked it is always bounces back - A "Technological Icarus" as many have been heard to say.

Yes the SC may have similar stunning looks but what makes Concorde Special is not just the physical appearence of the aircraft but the Human story behind it: Be it the people that created it, worked on it, travelled on it, operate it today or just turn up to see it; for all of them it is really something special, something to be proud of.

Gordon
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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21480 posts, RR: 54
Reply 12, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3274 times:

Gordonroxburgh: Concorde no matter how knocked it is always bounces back - A "Technological Icarus" as many have been heard to say.

Didn´t you mean phoenix? Icarus burnt, crashed and died, if I remember correctly...  Wink/being sarcastic

Gordonroxburgh: Yes the SC may have similar stunning looks but what makes Concorde Special is not just the physical appearence of the aircraft but the Human story behind it: Be it the people that created it, worked on it, travelled on it, operate it today or just turn up to see it; for all of them it is really something special, something to be proud of.

Definitely! Even if the SC will be a fantastic achievement on its own if they actually manage to pull it off.

Gordonroxburgh: Gordon (Webmaster - www.concordesst.com)

Oh, that´s you! Excellent work!  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3260 times:

well hell yes it will, i dont think the concorde is all that great.i dont live in NYC or CHICAGO WE dont get to see the concorde and when i have? not that awesome. it was cool, even when the SC comes out it wont be as cool as a 777 or a 747.IMO




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User currently offlineJ.mo From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 663 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3246 times:

I really don't understand how a person can be an aviation enthusiast and NOT want a whole new airframe to become reality. They can't keep stretching 737's and A340's forever!  Yeah sure
How exciting it will be to get away from the design we have had for 50 years. As far as the Concorde goes, it is a really neat airplane, I will never fly on it. Nobody wanted it so the French and British had to eat it. Sorry,

Jeremy



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User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6296 posts, RR: 33
Reply 15, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3251 times:

Might I point the naysayers to the Barrons issue from May, 1? Looks more and more likely that the CS will become reality.
As for the original question. The Concorde,as well as the 747, will be the most recognized aircraft for most of our lives. I intentinally avoid mentinoning it having a place in my heart. Besides the obvious technical aspects, I really don't care much for it.



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User currently offlineCommander Data From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3235 times:

Since I hate Boeing I hate the Sonic Crusier. I cannot stand the way it looks. It sucks the whole look, and feel out of an airplane. I personally I love the Concorde, not as much as the DC-9, or MD-80, but its pretty high up there.

User currently offlineOO-AOG From Switzerland, joined Dec 2000, 1426 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3226 times:

Of course not, Concorde is the greatest airliner ever buildt!


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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13220 posts, RR: 77
Reply 18, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3220 times:

Lets see, Mach 0.98 or Mach 2.02?
Gordon's right, the Concorde story is an aviation soap-opera classic.
It was probably the last major airliner designed without substantial computer aids.
It could have sold better, but bad luck in timing (the 1970's oil crisis), and an element of 'Not Invented Here' from across the Atlantic, (after the B2707 got axed), very nearly made it a stillborn project, along with the usual British habit of cancelling projects.
In that respect Concorde showed the way forward, European collaboration was the only way for the UK to still be a player in airliner construction-even that lesson took some time to sink in.
Every time the aircraft roars into the air, to me it's like giving all those who tried to stop it the finger.
The SC is coming into a very different political and economic enviroment.
I just hope those who board it don't expect a 3.5 hour trip across the Atlantic!
(Boeing will probably call it the world's fastest airliner!)
Of course the SC will be a much more versatile, flexible aircraft.
It will be interesting to see if later versions will be capable of Mach 1.2 or thereabouts.





User currently offlineVapourTrails From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 1216 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3219 times:
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No - never!

Mach 0.98 or Mach 2.02? Well, that says it all! Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Concorde is special, and a Mach 0.98 SC is not that much of a big deal to me. I may feel differently in the future, but nothing will replace the unique qualities of Concorde for many, many years - if ever.

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User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3203 times:

IMHO the romanticism that surrounds Concorde just disguises the fact that it was a commercial failure, built simply to avoid political fall-out, written off at considerable expense to the taxpayer, with design flaws that were ignored despite repeated warnings.

Sure, it looks pretty. But there are other aircraft which, for my money, have earned their success.


User currently offlineJmc757 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 1298 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3183 times:

"The one thing I really like about the SC is that it will be more economical....."

Don't get me wrong i repesct your viewpoint, but come on. These aircraft are nearly 40 years apart! of course the SC will be a lot more economic, look at the technological advances since concorde was designed!!

It'll always be concorde for me  Smile

"...and an element of 'Not Invented Here' from across the Atlantic, (after the B2707 got axed), ..."

Well said.. couldn't agree more.

jmc757



User currently offlineF.pier From Italy, joined Aug 2000, 1524 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days ago) and read 3176 times:

If Boeing wants to make something special, why doesn't it study a new Concorde, which flies at more than 2.0 Mach and with the 2002 technology?

I think that it should be a good idea.

I am an Airbus fan, but sincerely I wouldn't like to fly the SC, it looks like an ugly Concorde, but the speed performance is quite depressive.

I'd like to see a 2002-2005 technology Concorde.


User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 23, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days ago) and read 3164 times:
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IMHO the romanticism that surrounds Concorde just disguises the fact that it was a commercial failure, built simply to avoid political fall-out, written off at considerable expense to the taxpayer, with design flaws that were ignored despite repeated warnings.

Yes, but which other airliner flies at Mach 2 at 60,000 feet?

Arsenal@LHR



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User currently offlineShamrock_747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 5 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3168 times:

I think Concorde is a very special plane. If 27L/R is being used for landings at LHR I go into my back garden at around 5pm and watch BA002 fly over - I never get bored of seeing her! I find it amazing that the plane I'm looking at was in New York 3 hours ago. I think the SC will be a very exciting aircraft, but nothing could ever replace Concorde in my heart.

Shamrock_747


25 Post contains images Donder10 : Wouldn't a more apprioate question be:Will the SC replace the 767-300ER in your heart?
26 Post contains images J.mo : It sounds as if people hate the SC just for the fact it may take attention away from their beloved Concorde. It's ok, you don't have to hate it just b
27 GDB : What serious design flaws, (the grounding reeked of politics, modifications had to be made, name me an aircraft that hasn't happened to), but usually
28 Post contains images Arsenal@LHR : It sounds as if people hate the SC just for the fact it may take attention away from their beloved Concorde. It's ok, you don't have to hate it just b
29 J.mo : I agree there is only one Concorde only because nobody bought it. If there were 1000 Concordes around it would not be that special. The only real comp
30 Arsenal@LHR : Just like the fact that there will only be only one 747, no matter how good the A380 is.
31 J.mo : Arsenal@LHR, I guess I am agreeing with you but I am also trying to point how "special" the SC will be in it's own right. My main focus is on the peop
32 Arsenal@LHR : Ofcourse, the SC will be a plane in it's own right, a unique plane with a unique design. It's not too constructive to compare SC to the Concorde, in a
33 Leezyjet : I've always wondered why, when the Concorde design so oviously works, it has never occurred to Airbus to upgrade/update it. The max seating capacity f
34 N79969 : The Concorde is distinct, special aircraft. It is cool looking and a landmark achievement in aviation. The SC will be economical but cannot call itsel
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