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User currently offline747buff From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 744 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3548 times:

Why are there no flights between LGA and the west coast? LGA is the closest to Manhattan and has a large O&D base, so it seems like some flights to LAX or SFO might do well. What do you guys think?


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16892 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3526 times:

First it's a very small slot controlled airport with a limit of about 1,500 miles for flights, the furthest you can fly from LGA is Denver.

Also allowing flights to the West Coast would take business away from JFK, JFK has very little domestic service to begin with.




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User currently offlineJcxp15 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 997 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3470 times:

It also has weight restrictions on every plane. Therefore, most heavy's that would fly LGA- West Coast, wouldn't have full fuel, and probably wouldn't be able to make the trip, or they would but it would be close.

User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3452 times:

Actually, the 737NG and the A320 family could both make the trip, and so could the 757.

User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3439 times:

Good question. I believe it has to do with weight restrictions on take offs, even though the A320 family, 737-NG, and 757's, all of which fly into and out of LGA and some even larger aircraft, like the 767-200/300/400.

I flew UA one stop from LGA to LAX in 1995 on an A320. The routing was UA 111.

The farthest west you can fly from LGA is to SLC and DEN, on United, Frontier (DEN), and Delta (SLC).

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineScottb From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6808 posts, RR: 32
Reply 5, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3400 times:

Simple answer. It's not permitted. There's a perimeter rule which states that the maximum stage length for flights to and from LGA is 1500 mi; I believe there's an exception for DEN. (Note that AUS doesn't qualify at just over 1500 mi). Flights of over 1500 miles must use JFK or EWR.

User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16892 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3413 times:

There are no nonstop flights from LGA to SLC, the furthest you can go from LGA is Denver.

Congress change the law governing DCA to allow certain West Coast flights, DCA previously had a perimeter rule just as LGA does. The main reason for Congress changing the rules with DCA was a selfish reason, they don't like driving to IAD. If you look at the main benefactors HP and AS they have strong leadership representing their hubs. Senator John McCain (R-Arizona) and Senator Young of Alaska, both high ranking memembers of Congress.

LGA has in the past had daily DC-10,A300 and L-1011 flights, and today DL still flies plenty of 767-200s, 300s, and 400s into LGA daily. So weight is not really a problem for LGA in regards to West Coast flying, as mentioned previoulsy mentioned a fully loaded 737-700, 800 and 900 weigh much less than a lightly loaded DC-10, L-1011 or 767-400.



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User currently offlineScottb From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6808 posts, RR: 32
Reply 7, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3366 times:

Well, weight isn't the only factor; you also have to take into account the performance of the aircraft. Even so, 757's can operate trans-cons from the 5700' runway at SNA, so it's not too much of a stretch to expect that a 757 could hypothetically operate a trans-con from LGA.

User currently offlineHA2vegas From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3352 times:

The perimeter restriction was implemented to force traffic into the "new" JFK airport.

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