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User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5630 posts, RR: 5
Posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4553 times:

Just reported on cbsmarketwatch.com - EgyptAir plane crashes near Tunis. No other details yet.


"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
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User currently offlineSpinkid From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1095 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4122 times:

CNN is now reporting it also. No more information

User currently offlineAA777-200 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 322 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4075 times:

Went down in Tunsinia(sp)? Went down after ATC heard a distress call

User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4028 times:

Not again...  Crying

RIP to the passengers that died.

Again a crash for MS  Sad

Rgds
Frederic


User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4160 posts, RR: 36
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3999 times:

First reports speak about bad weather (rain and quite strong winds) at the time of the crash. Nothing else reported yet.

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User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4160 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3967 times:

Reports that the plane crashed directly after take-off, barely four miles away from the airport.

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User currently offlineRen41 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3948 times:

It crashed into a hillside

User currently offlineRen41 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3903 times:

From OAG:
-Flight MS 0843 -Egyptair
-Aircraft 735
-Depart Cairo, Cairo Dep. Time 01:30pm May 07
-Arrive Tunis, Tunis Arr. Time 03:00pm May 07
-Travel Time 3 hours 30 mins
-Total Stops None

So it's probably a 735

**Ren41** Sad


User currently offlineBA777 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2173 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3886 times:

From the BBC:

An EgyptAir plane has crashed near Tunis, the Tunisian news agency (TAP) reports.
The report did not say what type of plane had crashed, or how many people were on board.

The plane was on a short flight from the Egyptian capital Cairo to Tunis, a Tunisian Government official told the French news agency AFP.

The plane crashed as it was coming in to land, about six kilometres (four miles) from the Tunis-Carthage airport, TAP reported.

The control tower lost contact with the plane a few seconds earlier, just after a distress call from the pilot, the report said.

The weather was foggy and rainy at the time.

Eyewitnesses told Reuters that the plane hit a hillside and ambulances were rushing to the scene.



Link to story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1973000/1973452.stm

Bad news again  Sad

BA777


User currently offlineB737-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3861 times:


CNN has just said it was a B737-500. It crashed 4 miles from Tunis airport shortly after take-off. Weather conditions rather poor.


User currently offlineB737-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3830 times:

Lol, the report from CNN says "the AIRBUS 737-500..."

User currently offlinePshifrin From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 255 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3827 times:

From egypt air's online flight schedule:

FLIGHT ( TUNIS -CAIRO )
Tuesday 07 May 2002
Flight Classes Departing Arriving Stops
844 First Economy TUNIS 1600 CAIRO 2115 0

According to TRAVELOCITY Flight 844 is listed at An AIRBUS aircraft


User currently offlineAirbus_A340 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3807 times:

Typical CNN Airbus 737-500, indeed...

Bless all the passengers



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User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3790 times:

One of those Airbus, I've seen a few of them !!

Pilot or the weather ?


User currently offlineRen41 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3791 times:

MSNBC: 55 passengers on board. Possible survivors

User currently offlineBA777 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2173 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3761 times:

Well if it's a 735 then this updated report from one of the eyewitnesses is wrong:

""The plane is a big passenger plane. It crashed in the Nahli area of Tunis," one eyewitness said."

The story has been updated: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1973000/1973452.stm

BA777  Sad


User currently offlinePshifrin From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 255 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3734 times:

Wait a minute! MSNBC has a guy on the phone from the airport that says the airplane has made a safe emergency landing back at the airport!

User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3708 times:

GREAT REPORT !!
==============

When did Airbus buy Boeing ?



An Egyptian airliner with 60 people on board has crashed near the Tunisian capital of Tunis.

The Airbus 737-500 went down shortly after takeoff, officials at the Tunis-Carthage Airport said.

The aircraft crashed in Nahli, in the northern part of the capital, about six kilometres (four miles) from the Tunis-Carthage airport.

Fifty-five passengers and five crew were on board the aircraft when it went down. Some on board are reported the be alive and have been taken to hospital.

The control tower had lost contact with the plane a few seconds earlier, just after the pilot sent out a distress call, The Associated Press reported.

Weather was foggy and rainy at the time of the crash, with sandy, high-wind conditions.




User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5630 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3684 times:

Well if it's a 735 then this updated report from one of the eyewitnesses is wrong:
""The plane is a big passenger plane. It crashed in the Nahli area of Tunis," one eyewitness said."


It could have seemed big to the eyewitness, particularly if he wasn't familiar with airliners.



"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
User currently offlinePshifrin From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 255 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3677 times:

Lester Holt from MSNBC certainly does know his aircraft. Not only did they show a correct picture of a 735 but he even referred to it as an NG model.

User currently offlineRabenschlag From Germany, joined Oct 2000, 1007 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3683 times:

i think that some follow the strategy: "as long as youre not sure name both so you wont be completely wrong".

we should not care, however, but think of those who died.

r.


User currently offlineRen41 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3672 times:

 Confused Crash or safe landing?????

User currently offlineBA777 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2173 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3667 times:

Good point PROSA  Sad

This is their 735 fleet:

25084 2019 B737-566 CFM56-3C1 04/10/91 EGYPT AIR SU-GBH
25307 2135 B737-566 CFM56-3C1 10/11/91 EGYPT AIR SU-GBI
25352 2169 B737-566 CFM56-3C1 11/25/91 EGYPT AIR SU-GBJ
26052 2276 B737-566 CFM56-3C1 05/01/92 EGYPT AIR SU-GBK [OCC LST ASD]
26051 2282 B737-566 CFM56-3C1 05/08/92 EGYPT AIR SU-GBL

BA777


User currently offlineCarmy From Singapore, joined Oct 2001, 627 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3631 times:

Tells you how accurate CNN is doesn't it?

User currently offlineRabenschlag From Germany, joined Oct 2000, 1007 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3543 times:

german newsmag DER SPIEGEL cites a tunesian member of the government "several sources told me that a BOEING crashed".

r.


25 Airbus_A340 : We are not being morons, if the media are unsure, then they should hold things they are unsure about out until they are sure, although it happens all
26 NBC News1 : CNN says it was making an emergency landing.
27 Air Malta : I'm from Tunis and I live just 1 mile from the accident. The plane is borken into 3 pieces and the latest news talk about 5 dead... it's raining in tu
28 NBC News1 : Taken from CNN website: "An EgyptAir jet airliner made an emergency landing in Tunisia today, an EgyptAir official said. He said no one was killed. De
29 Heavymetal : Guys, here's a clue.. NOBODY cares what &*^%&^ model of &*(^&* airplane it was. If someone knows someone on the flight, you think they're gonna care a
30 Pilot1113 : My heart goes out to those that lost their lives in this crash. I do hope some survived this. - Neil Harrison P.S. I wonder how long before someone po
31 EA CO AS : Psh- Technically, the -500 is part of the "737 Classic" family. The Next-Generation series begins with the -600, going through the -700/-800/-900 seri
32 Air Malta : I live just 1 mile away from where the accident occured. The plane is broken into 3 pieces. It didn't catch fire... They say that there are 5 dead and
33 Reggaebird : CNN is reporting "NO DEATHS" in the "CRASH LANDING" of the Egyptair 834
34 Dazed767 : 15 killed.....pilot and copilot.....
35 Heavymetal : Correction.....CNN is reporting an EgyptAir official told them "no deaths" Let's hope it's true.
36 Dazed767 : possible problems with the landing gear.....did a low pass...MSNBC is saying that.
37 Reggaebird : Flight Number was 843 not 834.
38 Air Malta : The plane is borken into 3 pieces... no flames and local TV reporting 5 dead and 13 injured...
39 Post contains links Pakistania : WX@ DTTA: 071530Z 09025G37KT 5000 SCT012 FEW023CB BKN026 17/17 Q1000 RERA RMK CB/N/NE for further news: http://www.jacdec.de
40 Post contains images BA777 : Now reports have emerged saying that the plane made an emergency landing, i wish we knew the truth BA777
41 Jamesag96 : Good lord, now according to CNN it isn't clear whether it landed or not? Solid information anyone? J
42 Caribb : Reading all these posts I'd pick Air Malta as the best source - forget CNN.. he lives right next to the crash site.. if that's true then it's split in
43 DC9 : Can anyone supply a reg for this A/C
44 Post contains links Mcringring : The stories on this are all over the place. From crashing to emergency landing... Hope everyone is ok. For all you pathetic media bashers who want eve
45 Donder10 : For all you pathetic media bashers who want everyone in the world to be an airplane expert... Calling it an Airbus 737-500 is a pretty bad mistake tho
46 Boyshane : Cnn.com reports that at least 15 have perished. Rest in Peace :-( -Shane
47 Radarbeam : May the ones who died rest in peace. Radarbeam
48 Air Malta : The plane is reported to have problems with the landing gear... It attempted to land once and then it made a circle another time... Apparently , the p
49 Thomas_Jaeger : @Air Malta: Could you give me further details where the plane crashed, as far as I know they were talking about a hill. Is it the region around La Mar
50 Cx340 : It seems the media finally got it cleared up. . . From cnn.com: "TUNIS, Tunisia (CNN) -- At least 15 people have died after an Egyptian airliner with
51 ChrisKSDF : Which runway was the aircraft approaching? I'm assuming with the winds in the METAR above, they would have been landing Rwy 11?
52 Post contains images Bambicruz : according to lematin.ma ( a newspaper ) : An airliner of the Egyptian company Egyptair crashed Tuesday afternoon close to the airport of Tunis-Carthag
53 Post contains images Fly707 : Very bad to hear an Egypt Air crash again in less than three years !!!!!!! Egypt Air chairman would better resign . Passengers lives is not a game .
54 Post contains links and images Gdabski : And this is the aircraft involved according to ASN: SU-GBI View Large View MediumPhoto © Charles Falk Gdabski
55 Pshifrin : They are just showing footage from the crash scene on MSNBC. You can see that the front of the plane back to the over wing exit is INTACT. Past the ov
56 Flygga : MSNBC just showed video of the crash site. The nose section was intact and was all white with no titles which matched the previous photo. Looking the
57 Air Malta : The 737 was landing from the north... Now , they are talking about 16 dead, 33 injured and 17 missing... They said the pilot was ok but the other 7 cr
58 Post contains images ChrisKSDF : "Emergency Landing" my ass. This is very similar to the Singapore 006 crash, when the airline originally claimed "emergency landing with no fatalities
59 Kaitak : Egyptair seems to be developing a fairly lousy safety record; over the past few years, it has lost a 707 (Istanbul), a 767 (NY), plus various other se
60 Rabenschlag : in german television news there was repeatedly stated that there is the hypothesis that the crash was due to "electrical problems". as usual, no evide
61 Chepos : May those who died rest in peace. Chepos
62 Woodsboy : Must have been fairly controlled/ low speed to be as intact as it is. All the pics are at AirDisaster.com if you are interested.
63 Post contains images Hkgspotter1 : The reg is confirmed. PICTURE FROM AIRDISASTER.COM.
64 RJ_Delta : It is a great disater for the egyptian aviation. This is last incident of Egypt Air and second serious incident after the 767-300ER (SU-GAP "Tutmosis
65 Cx flyboy : Are you sure? I think it is fixable.
66 Post contains images BA : RJ_Delta, There is no way the plane can be fixed if it's been broken into 3 pieces. It's as good as gone. It can be used for spare parts, or simply sc
67 BA : Simply put, if there has been any major structural damage to the fuselage, the plane cannot be repaired. The damage is permanent in this case, and no
68 Sxmarbury33 : "Other witnesses said the pilot released fuel shortly before the plane went down, a move that may have saved lives by preventing the wreckage from cat
69 Post contains images SJC-Alien : .....One of the interesting things of this crash is the debris field.....it's almost as if it 'helicoptered' in....I mean, why isn't the wreckage scat
70 Air Malta : Hi , they say that there are now about 26 dead and almost 26 alive. The co-pilot is alive but all the remaining of the crew are dead... The weather is
71 Jrb44 : Regarding the fuel dump report mentioned by Sxmarbury33, I understand it to be the case that 737s do not have fuel jettison capability, a quick check
72 Trintocan : A tragedy indeed. 14 die in this the 3rd BOEING 737-500 write-off accident. Another blow to EgyptAir, too, who certainly have been trying to overcome
73 PROSA : There is no way the plane can be fixed if it's been broken into 3 pieces. It's as good as gone. It can be used for spare parts, or simply scrapped. Ev
74 Post contains images Setjet : Even this almost new Air China 747-400 had to be written off after it's runway overrun in Hongkong.
75 Ts-ior : There was a problem with the altimeter.The pilot forgot to switch the knob on the right QNH or the altimeter was giving a wrong information due to wr
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