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FedEx To Lease 10 BC17 From Boeing  
User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5155 times:

According to Justplanes.com, FedEx is in discussions with Boeing about leasing as many as 10 BC-17s, the proposed civilian version of the C-17 military cargo transport.

The aircraft would be leased in conjunction with USAF's Civil Reserve Air Fleet program.


I wonder what'll it be like to have BC17 with FedEx's colour. Also, I never see any pics of the C-17s.


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User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4993 times:

The shadyest lines in business:

OLD- "Enron is rated 'strong buy'"

NEW-"It's leased from Boeing."


User currently offlineCwapilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4843 times:

Rather than be trite, please enlighten the rest of us common folk as to what you are talking about....


Southside Irish...our two teams are the White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs!
User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4832 times:

Sorry, you're right more explanation is called for... its' just that I got very suspicious when I read this:

"The aircraft would be leased in conjunction with USAF's Civil Reserve Air Fleet program. "

I'm a taxpayer watching several years of what passed for budgetary responsibilty get thrown to the dogshttp://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/05/10/house.defense/index.html ...and from this info I just sniffed the idea that now my tax dollars are going towards leasing Fed Ex some airplanes, that's all. I find it hard to believe, especially in the present climate when corporations are proving they can run roughshod over Washington, that the Air Force isn't forking over some coin to Fed Ex in some way shape or form. If solid proof exists to the contrary I'll modify my position.

The 'lease' reference was to the bend-over-with-no-grease deal we got from Boeing on the 767 tanker situation....the one where the lease plan cost many times more than outright purchase. The golden checkbook that was handed to Boeing because they lost the JSF competition.

Just a rant, nothing more.







User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4601 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4782 times:

Jim: you need to make it out to Southwest Oklahoma some day around Altus AFB. Driving through there a couple years ago storm chasing, I got to see 4 of them flying in formation. A very interesting site to say the least.

User currently offlineCainanuk From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 551 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4738 times:

I used to be stationed at Altus. You should see them when they are doing combat approaches. AAFB has a 2500 ft "assault strip" between the 2 main runways. The damned things come in high and hot and drop like a rock. A true vomit comet I'll bet!!


Cainan Cornelius
User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4698 times:

Jiml1126,

Here is the C-17:


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Sergio Gava



Michael


User currently offlineFDXmech From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 34
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4582 times:

Why would Fedex lease C17's?


You're only as good as your last departure.
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16285 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4575 times:

Perhaps the BC-17 would be a good commercial cargo aircraft. MDD talked about offering an MD-17 before the Boeing purchase.

If this proceeds, no doubt Fedex would get a favourble lease rate (as the lead commercial customer) and as part of the CRAF.

Would be interesting to know the lift capability & operating costs of a BC-17 though.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineJonPaulGeoRngo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4559 times:

Maybe Fed Ex has researched the oversized and bulk cargo mkt and discovered that the private businesses dedicated to hiring large An-124s might be able to use (or might only need the capabilities of) a smaller, and perhaps more efficient C-17s.

User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

Theres something I've thought of that might or might not become a factor. If they were to have the -17s, they have two choices for flying in that amount of cargo with that range, the -17 or the DC/MD-10. With the BC-17 they could bypass the expensive, busy, and congested major airports with the long runways (which the DC-10 currently needs) and go to closer in, cheaper, and less busy airports with smaller, yet suitable runways for the BC-17. I'm not talking about flying it into the small GA fields, but moreso the reliver airports with runways in the 7-9000ft range and the capabilities for handling an aircraft of this size.

User currently offlineFlyVS007 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 186 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4460 times:

I'd love to see Fed-Ex BC-17s doing STOL's at London City!

;o)


User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4436 times:

Well, it's more like the Air Force wants to have more C17 for crisis times and they were looking for an opportunity to hide it a little bit.

ot: The C17 has to be one of the ugliest planes flying. I see them every day in FRA, and every time i see them i wonder how this ugly beast can fly. The old Galaxies are much more beautiful.

Anyway, i can't wait for the day the USAF leaves FRA, and with them there bad pilots ... every third-world captain is able to follow SIDs and STARs, USAF pilots aren't...


User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4428 times:

Racko...

Just curious how many movements a day does the USAF make at FRA?

TNNH


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16872 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4400 times:

Why would they leave FRA?..

Are they moving the operations to Ramstein?.



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User currently offlineGodbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4388 times:

STT757,

All I know is that they will leave FRA by 2005 but I guess they will keep an option to use FRA for fuel supply in a crisis since FRA has, if I'm informed correctly, the largest NATO-fuel-reserve. And I havn't heard anything about that moving to Ramstein AFB.
Where they have their base in FRA FRAport wants to build Terminal 3.

Btw: I really love those birds. Every time I see a C-17 land in FRA I am amazed about how much I like that A/C. It's true... the USAF pilots seem to have their own rules on how to fly... They fly those big birds as if they were fighter jets. But I think that's cool  Big thumbs up

Max


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4358 times:

This makes sense...FedEx is part of the Civil Air Reserve Fleet which means in times of war most cargo aircraft, especially large/widebodies (of which the C-17 definitely falls under) are taken in by the USAF for delivering supplies to the war zone if needed...the USAF will still have them if they need em that way...

Greg



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