Nighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5250 posts, RR: 31
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2156 times:
is this it (extract from Thomas Jaegers aviation newsletter)
Hart Air (London Gatwick) could be the name of a new long-haul airline to be
based at London Gatwick. The airline would resume Caribbean routes that
British Airways abandoned during the last years and use B767-300ERs and
Thomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2438 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2147 times:
This are just rumours, I heard about that several times before and again here. However, I'm not sure about the names of the airlines but I decided to publish it.
There are obviously two projects: the low-cost airline "based" in BHX with 10-12 B737-300s and this "luxury airline" "based" at LGW to operate with B767-300ERs and B777-200ERs on ex-BA routes to the Caribbean.
I heard many different names and I'm not 100% sure Hart Air was the one at LGW.
Does somebody know how these two projects are actually called?
Swiss aviation news junkie living all over the place
Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2621 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2054 times:
Q: What have all these airlines got in common?
British World 2002
A: They're never going to fly.
The UK appears to have more than it's fair share of planned startups with dubious business plans, that have you scratching your head about whether rational people could actually believe they have a hope in hell of securing financial backing.
The airline industry is a risky one, and any business plan that's a bit "out there" is going to struggle to attract investors - in a good year. In the current climate, I think you can all but forget it.
Many of these airlines have been around for years, promising an "imminent launch." I'm not holding my breath...
For an example of how it's done look at Astraeus, sound business plan, right people at the helm, right aircraft. Been around much shorter length of time than most of the companies above and have got into the air in the space of a few months. They asembled a management team, secured backing, found aircraft and business for them and obtained their AOC, now they have real aircraft in the air, flying real passengers, earning real revenue for the company.
If your companys got a good business plan and a chance of success, it'll fly. If not, you'll start a website and costantly postpone your startup for unspecified reasons. Have a look at Astraeus' website and see how quickly it can all be achieved if you get things right; http://www.flyastraeus.com
Just as a closer, here's a photo of Astraeus' first B737-700, which will become G-STRC;
IndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 3208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2029 times:
It appears to me that there are already too many carriers flying in the UK imo. It seems strange to add even more airlines to the mix, as BA is already struggling and so is VS and BM. add to that the low cost cariers including Ryanair, Go / Easyjet , bmibaby and Buzz. British European is also a main player in alot of routes.
Then theres the charter carriers that operate, including Britannia, Air 2000 , My Travel , Monarch, then European Aviation and Astreus.
It seems crowded already imo. Where do all these airlines expect to get profits from as the market is already flat. Very risky move.