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User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1721 times:

If you have a look at Bill Harms site you will see that a couple of the A346's due to VS have now gone from the list. One of them, line number 468 G-VSSH `Sweet Dreamer' is now for China Eastern.

Does anyone know why ??

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User currently offlineEGFF From UK - Wales, joined Sep 2001, 2201 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1579 times:

Possibly to do with the rumours that Branson is to start a 'low cost' airline in the U.S, maybe he needs all the money he can get Big grin
EGFF



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User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1556 times:

Thats possible but I dont think so  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineIvo From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 470 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1431 times:

Hi,

A few months ago, Branson was on the brink of cancelling the A340-600 order.

They got a good deal from Airbus and the order was not cancelled, but a few aircraft where deferred.
So, one of those for China Eastern?

Ivo


User currently offlineGordonroxburgh From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 550 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1389 times:

I wonder if the new Virgin Hnager at LHR will be long enough to take in an A346...hope they remembered!

User currently offlineCO777-200ER From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 331 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 1311 times:

I am wondering, did Virgin Atlantic ever consider the 777 instead of the A340-600, I am just wondering because I forgot now but i heard somewhere that they maybe were looking into the 777 for the A340-200 replacement.

Thanks Joey


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1302 times:

They are making a hanger at Heathrow ??, Whats the location ?

User currently offlineReggaebird From Jamaica, joined Nov 1999, 1174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1294 times:

Instead of letting them cancel the A346 orders Airbus allowed Virgin to defer some of the aircraft. That's the only reason for the changes in Bill Harm's list.

Virgin did consider the 777 but Sir Richard is a strong believer in having 4 engines on his long-haul birds. Se la guerre!!



User currently offlineBoeing727 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 950 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1277 times:

Four holers for long haulers, where did you get this information Reggaebird?? And don't tell me that all the long haulers have four engines up to this point; the B777 makes much more sense than the -600, in my mind at least.

Boeing727


User currently offlineReggaebird From Jamaica, joined Nov 1999, 1174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1266 times:

Richard Branson was interviewed in a British or German aviation enthusiasts magazine back in the late '90's. In it, he said that many of the people who fly long-distance on his airline prefer to be onboard large four engined planes instead of twin engined ones. He also said that when Virgin operated a 767 for a short period in the early '90's the airline received more customer-based equipment complaints than at any other time.

I cannot remember which magazine it was but the article is floating around on the web somewhere. I was trying to find a link for you but could not.



User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1256 times:

Boeing727,

With a username like that I wonder why you think the 777 is better then the A346  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Don't you understand what he means ?, its been said many times before that Sir Ricahrd Branson thinks passengers on long haul flights like to see 4 engines and not only two.

We all know the 777 is a very good long haul aircraft but people that know nothing about aviation like 4 engines better then 2 !


User currently offlineAirbus_A340 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1246 times:

Lol, it is all true, I read Richard Bransons "Losing My Virginity" and it does state in there about how he prefers 4 engined aircraft. I think it's a physcological thing...seeing 4 engines is comforting, rather than just 2. I do understand that 2 engines is just as safe, but it's just a feeling i have having 4 is safer.  Smile

Trevor



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User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1213 times:

You know, if some of you would take the time to read carefully, and to understand just what it is you're reading, there'd probably be a lot less conflict between members in these forums.
Not everyone who books a flight is an aviation enthusiast. Matter of fact, we enthusiasts are largely out numbered when it comes to passenger figures. So, if the majority of passengers polled say they feel safer on a four engined aircraft as opposed to a two engined one, then, who are we as enthusiasts to argue. Sure, we all know that 2 can be better than 4 in certain applications, but, I'm sure there are trade-offs... just like in everything else in life.
So, if the man wants to buy 4 holers instead of 2 to please his (unenthusiastic) passengers, that's his business. Because in the end of it all, it's the "average joe" passenger who's paying his bills.... not aviation enthusiasts. So, please don't shoot the messenger.

Signed:
Jerry Springer... er, I mean Tony  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1187 times:
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Don't know where the rumour about a Virgin hangar at Heathrow came from, but last week Virgin Atlantic signed a 5-year maintenance contract with FLS Aerospace covering all heavy maintenance on their A340 fleet, both the -300 and -600. The work will be carried out at their Dublin hangar.

Extract from press release;
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Virgin Atlantic Airways has just signed a five-year contract with FLS Aerospace for the maintenance of the Virgin Airbus A340 fleet. This new agreement, with a contract value in excess of €20 million, covers all base maintenance of the fleet including ‘C’ checks and major modification programmes. The work will be performed at FLS Aerospace’s Dublin base, whose other Airbus wide-body customers include Aer Lingus, Airtours, Air France, Premiair and SkyService.

Virgin Atlantic currently operates 10 Airbus A340-300 aircraft and will be the launch customer for the new Airbus A340-600, with deliveries commencing in June this year. Both aircraft sub-models are included in this contract.

Commenting on the signing, Mike Humphreys, acting CEO, FLS Aerospace said that “FLS Aerospace are delighted to have been chosen by Virgin Atlantic for the A340 maintenance. Having developed much experience on the A330 over the past 8 years, it was always our intention to move into the A340 market. This contract provides that opportunity and is evidence of the confidence, which Virgin Atlantic has in our ability to deliver. This contract is an important part in developing the A330/A340 as a core product for FLSA and focusing on Virgin Atlantic’s needs as a core customer of FLS Aerospace.

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Regards
CROSSWIND


User currently offlineSukhoi From Sweden, joined May 2006, 373 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1158 times:

Virgin's hangar at LHR is under construction next to the bmi hangar and yes the A346 will fit in it  Wink/being sarcastic

Cheers

Paul


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1147 times:

They may still need a hanger at Heathrow. They can also do work on other airlines aircraft.

User currently offlineVC-10 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 1999, 3695 posts, RR: 35
Reply 16, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1112 times:
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The FLS contract is for 'C' Chks & above. VS handle their own 'A' Cks

User currently offlineAirbus_A340 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 19
Reply 17, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1087 times:

AWspicious, that's what I was tryign to say! I agree with you!

Do BMI handle Cathay Pacific's planes whilst at LHR? Because I think I saw 2 CX 744's outside the BMI hangars when I was there in the summer on holiday.

Trevor



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User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1012 times:
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VC-10, HKspotter1, Sukhoi...

Thanks for the info, had no idea Virgin were constructing a hangar and thought it unlikely because all their heavy maintenance is sub-contracted out. Having said that the closest I've been to Heathrow in the last 5 years has been the M25 - all my recent trips to London have meant me flying into Gatwick. It's more convenient for me, plus you get a hot brekkie on the early MAN-LGW flights!

Regards
CROSSWIND


User currently offlineBaec777 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1231 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 999 times:

Boeing727,
we dont like to see any boeing vs airbus situation here, watch what you say here buddy.... (deletion requested)...

baec


User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7329 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 984 times:
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I didn't know there were complaints about the Martinair 767 wet-lease; this happened for winter 1994-5 if I remember correctly, replacing the A340.

What is about the Virgin MAN-MCO service that attracts the "whinging" comments? We have these comments on 767s, and the well-documented Air Atlanta subsitution last year(?) leading to all manner of complaints from travel agents and passengers!

David/MAN


User currently offlineAwspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 907 times:

Airbus A340;
My post was not directed at you. Sorry. I guess I should have said "If some of you took the time... bla bla bla"
Anyway, no hard feelings, I hope :-}

cheers!
aw


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