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User currently offlineUnited777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0
Posted (14 years 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1513 times:

Hi all

What do you think about Seattle's future of becoming a major world hub or expansion of more international airlines? Seattle has only a few flights to Asia and Europe but alot of flights to Canada and Mexico thanks to it's hometown carriers, Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air.

American Airlines recently suspended flights from Tokyo from Seattle and Northwest Airlines suspended flights to Osaka and at one time use to fly from Seattle to Hong Kong even Thai Airways use to fly to Seattle.

The port of Seattle is still considering building a new international terminal where the cargo terminals are currently located. Do you think there is a future for this? What airlines do you think will start service to Seattle.

I think Vancouver and San Francisco take alot of the routes from Seattle. Vancouver is just a two hour drive flight from Seattle so if you want to fly to Hong Kong why not just drive to Vancouver and catch Cathay Pacific Airways. I think it is really odd Lufthansa flies to Denver but not Seattle.

Seattle has proved it's self to be a major world city so why isn't there any airlines starting service? The airport is expanding and going through alot of re-modelling.

What do you think, here are the airlines that currently flu to Seattle to international cities. Did I miss any?

United Airlines - Tokyo (777-200)
United Express - Vancouver
Northwest Airlines - Tokyo, Amsterdam (747-200)
Alaska Airlines - Mexico, Canada
Horizon Air - Canada
Asiana Airlines - Seoul (B777-200)
EVA Air - Taipei (747-400)
British Airways - London (747-400)
SAS - Copenhagen (A340-300, 767-300?)

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User currently offlineKwbl From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 458 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (14 years 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1449 times:

I could see SEA getting more international flights in the near future. They have recently had a great increase in domestic flights and with PDX losing DL transpacific, the door is open. However, as you mentioned, there is alot of competition at YVR. Also, even though PDX lost it's service, there is still a market large enough for one or 2 flights across the ocean. PDX will market itself very aggressively for new service and YVR has done it for years. SEA will be in position to do the same. As for LH in Denver, it is primarily because of the code-share with UA

User currently offlineJustplanesmart From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 731 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (14 years 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1451 times:

Aeroflot serves SVO from SEA with the 777-200; I believe the routing is SFO-SEA-SVO. In addition, the NW flights to AMS are with DC-10's, AFAIK. In the past, Seattle had flights such as JAL to Tokyo, NW to Seoul, UA to Hongkong and Heathrow, & Finnair to Helsinki. I also find it difficult to believe that there is not enough demand for other flights (in good economic times) to other major cities, particularly in Europe. Certainly Frankfurt or Paris should generate enough traffic for a weekly flight.

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User currently offlineErikr From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (14 years 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1382 times:

Air Canada serves Toronto with a daily flight. I think with an A319 or A320.

To add a bit of history, Martinair used to fly 2/3 charters to Amsterdam per week during the summer years ago using first DC-10s, 747-200s, and finally 767-300s. I think these flights were discontinued as NW starting making daily flights.

There are some international cargo flights. Martinair does make a flight or two to AMS. I think CargoLux does Luxembourg. China Airlines flies into Taipei.

User currently offlinePW100 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2002, 3103 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (14 years 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1369 times:

Well if even Boeing moves out of Seattle, it becomes challenging [to say the least] to convince the airlines of the world that SEA is still a major international gateway...!


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User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4349 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (14 years 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1368 times:

Seattle has seen a fair amount of international service, especially Asian, come and go. NW had started to build SEA into a significant secondary gateway (NRT, KIX, SEL, HKG) before the Asian economy tanked. China Southern also served the area for awhile.

I think Seattle will continue to play an important role as a secondary gateway, but the focus will be more on O&D traffic. We just don't have the level of feed that SFO, LAX and YVR have to sustain a lot of connecting markets (hence AA's cancelling the SEA-NRT run).


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User currently offlineSailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (14 years 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1302 times:

I know for sure that before 9-11, LH was interested in flying FRA-SEA daily with an A343. I do know not what has happened to these plans meanwhile, but it traffic increases, I think we could see that flight around 2004.


User currently offlineVadheim From Norway, joined Jul 2000, 628 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (14 years 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1301 times:

Is SAS the only A340 operator at Seattle?

User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6045 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (14 years 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1277 times:

Well both AF and LH have expressed interest in serving SEA so one should expect to see service to both CDG and FRA in the near future. The problem with SEA is that, as stated by others, it is does not have the feed of SFO, LAX, YVR, etc. Furthermore, its position at the far northeast of the US means that it cannot work as an effective transatlantic hub except for north-south west coast connections. As a result, airlines flying into SEA must rely on a greater degree of O&D traffic than at places such as DEN. This I would argue, is what has prevented more European carriers from serving the airport.

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User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (14 years 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1261 times:

SAS is the only operator to fly A340 to Seattle.

Also, China Southern never flies to Seattle, it's China Eastern. Now China Eastern Cargo/China Cargo flies to Seattle with M11F.

User currently offlineAlexinwa From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1177 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (14 years 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1243 times:

The new North Terminal will NOT be for international traffic. That will stay at the South satellite. The new North Terminal will be a 40 gate addition to SEA-TAC. United will be 1st up in the bidding for how many gates and the location when it is built. It is part of the master plan with the 3rd runway and a new North ground transportation area that will link SEA-TAC with downtown via light rail.

My dream for SEA-TAC


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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (14 years 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1224 times:
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UA has the rights to fly SEA-LHR, so why hasn't UA tried this route? Or has it?


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User currently offlineAlexinwa From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1177 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (14 years 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1205 times:

It did fly it. Twice actually. It started when they got the heather slots with a 763 and a 747sp. Then they cut it for a few months. Started again and then cut it for good. The slots went to ORD/SFO/LAX/JFK/IAD/EWR.

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