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Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot  
User currently offlineLayitontheline From Canada, joined Jan 2002, 85 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2879 times:

http://www.torontostar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1021068131620&call_page=TS_News&call_pageid=968332188492&call_pagepath=News/News


I guess that u have to do what u have to do when times are tough.

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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29800 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2690 times:

There are a lot of things worse then working in a Home Depot.

Hell I spend enough of my paychecks in there, I should know Laugh out loud



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineDelta737 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 516 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2562 times:

Here's what some of my furloughed pals are doing:

Home Depot
Masonry
Car Salesman
"Mr. Mom"
Unemployed

And by the way, "Matt D" -- cheap shot. I presume you plan on getting involved in aviation?

Doug Taylor
Jetcareers.com


User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2543 times:

Ummm....I don't think so.

I'm actually in the energy business and doing quite well.


User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2519 times:

You're with Enron, right?
 Smile

Kidding, of course. They'll all be back in the air soon.
It's an inherent risk you take when working for an airline--furloughs. They knew it and accepted the risk. One of the reasons I chose a profession that is recession proof!

How do they stay current if they are out for six or more months?


User currently offlineDelta737 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 516 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2511 times:

MattD-

Excellent. Be a little kinder to aviation folks because this, after all, is THEIR domain.

Doug Taylor
(Doesn't hang out on the Enron forums)


User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2496 times:
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energy biz huh? Whats that, solar??

Don't take yourselves too importantly. A job is a job.



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User currently offlineDelta737 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 516 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2490 times:

Actually, I think a greatly important job is a garbage truck driver!

Could you imagine a world without trash pickup?  Smile

Doug Taylor


User currently offlineSushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2470 times:

Hey wasnt this guy on that flight in the cockpit video from a couple years back? It was Royal A310 Toronto-London Stansted. Im sure of it. Anyone else know what im talking about?


Pershoyu Spravoyu Litaki!
User currently offlineJETPILOT From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3130 posts, RR: 29
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2445 times:

How about a little compassion forr those in an industry devestated by September 11th.

I'm sure this unemployed gentleman is paying his bills by working at Home Depot. He's probably very short on cash and making it by on savings hoping to return before his money runs out.

Your shorsighted comments are in poor taste considering recent events.

I'm not saying HD is a bad job, But I'm sure it doesnt support the lifestyle he bought into.... His mortgage was based on his income at the time at what was considered as steady employment as you can find in the industry when times were good.

So have a little compason for someone who I'm sure can't pay his bills.

Been there done that. I'm the king of furlough..... Believe me it sucks beyond imagination.

JET


User currently offlinePilot1113 From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2333 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2381 times:

I don't get it... what did Matt D say to get you guys all riled up?

- Neil Harrison


User currently offlineDelta737 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 516 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2350 times:

MattD - Petroleum?  Smile

Doug Taylor
jetcareers.com


User currently offlineDe727ups From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 814 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2243 times:

In his typical flamebait fashion...MattD's post was quickly deleted. I don't need to see it.....

When can we get a dis-respected users list?....


User currently offlineDeltaflyertoo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1653 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2190 times:

I am impressed at the pilot who would work at HD or anywhere else for that matter. I know some pilots that are out of work that can't possibly think about not doing anything...but flying!! They don't want to consider any work that is non aviation, some are trying to be flight instructors for next to nothing..none of it makes sense to me. For god's sake, get a real job, any job out there is a real job, even Home Depot, esp. when you have a family to support. With my one friend, I always respected his airline career, now that it is on hold, I thought he was more well rounded than to keep trying to fly as an instructor getting 20k a year. It is almost obsessive.

User currently offlineDelta737 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 516 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2136 times:

$20,000 as an instructor? Hell, in my best year as a CFI I barely cracked $9,000.

I don't know a furloughee that hasn't jumped on ANY job opportunity yet. Either flying or non-flying. There's a guy from Delta doing carpentry.

Home Depot is not McDonalds. Whenever I go there with a question, they're on it like crazy. I wish the airlines would look at Home Depot's customer service and implement EVERYTHING.

I think largely, the problem is that quite a few civilians, including myself, majored in aviation-related degree programs. When you can't get hired as a pilot, an aviation degree is just something pretty that you hang on your wall.

MattD took a cheap shot, I got angry and until the last furlough is back at work, I'll do what i can to stand up for them.

As "holier than thou" than that statement sounds, I know they'd do it for me.

Doug Taylor
Part of the aviation fraternity.


User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2096 times:

>>Home Depot is not McDonalds. Whenever I go there with a question, they're on it like crazy. I wish the airlines would look at Home Depot's customer service and implement EVERYTHING.<<

I'm guessing that you've just seen their commercials, haven't you?

Working in a mom/pop hardware store, I know that Home Depot is the bottom of the barrel in terms of customer service. Many(I won't say all) employees barely know the stuff in their department, let alone the entire store. If they don't know it, they'll send you to what might be the proper department, by just telling you to go to aisle whatever(1-50) and asking there. From what I've experienced, I'm usually asking in three departments, from coming into the store until I get the one thing I need.

Where I work, we are taught the basics of everything in the store, and then the specifics on different areas(we have three guys that know plumbing, several that know hardware, a couple in paint and gardening, one in furniture, etc.). I work in cleansers/polishers for example, knowing the best for just about any situation. If an employee can't do it, s/he personally finds the person that can.


User currently offlineMarrrty From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2036 times:

Sushka,

It is the gentleman who was in the ROY A310 video.


User currently offlineVref From Canada, joined Jan 2002, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2021 times:

In addition to being in the Royal 310 video Neil was our union president and a great guy to work with.



Remember! She will fly over gross but not out of gas!
User currently offlineSlawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1974 times:

Neil was truly one of the best people around at Royal and C3. Really stood out among the croud in the last few days before C3's shutdown.


"Clive Beddoe says he favours competition, but his actions do not support that idea." Robert Milton - CEO Air Canada
User currently offlineEssentialPowr From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1820 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

Hey MattD-
Ifyou'reintheenergybusinessandhappytobetherewhydon'tyoujointheenergybusinessforums


User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2900 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1939 times:
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I have a lot of sympathy for these guys who are having to make due while the economy is in a downturn, but there are lots of people doing the same thing. I consider myself very lucky that I wasn't nailed in the tech downturn, and if I was, I'd expect to be doing the same thing that these guys are -- find something to make money and survive.

Anyone affected by 9/11 or the economy in general deserves some sympathy, but let's face some facts: terrorism or no terrorism, the airline industry was in the tank, and furloughs would have happened courtesy of Osama or not. Same thing of other industries in the economy.

Yes, Home Depot sucks for an ex-pilot, but it sucks for an ex-broker and an ex-Net Admin and an ex-teacher too. Let's keep this in perspective.


User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1903 times:

FlashMeister;
Good point. There are thousands of people out there affected by economic downturns far too often in this era we live in, and, they all deserve out sympathy. However, seeing as this is an aviation forum, it stands to reason that we aviation enthusiasts are gonna express our sentiments about those affected in this field. It's not that we don't have any consideration for others in all the other industries that have been hit, (I'm sure many of us know or is related to someone affected) but, because we're here to deal with aviation related topics our primary focus will be on those affected in the aviation industry.

Cheers!

aw


User currently offlineJETPILOT From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3130 posts, RR: 29
Reply 22, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1869 times:

MAJOR CORRECTION.... Pilot hiring was the best I had seen in my ten year long career. The regional were almost hiring you based if you had a valid drivers license.

All the majors had no one on furlough, and were hiring at a steady pace.... save US Airways.

Some companies were hit in the downturn of the economy but the hiring was still moderate.

JET


User currently offlineCpt Underpants From Canada, joined May 2001, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1819 times:

JETPILOT:

I hate to be a contrarian, but the industry was about to be hit pretty hard by the economic downturn, Sept. 11th simply accelerated the process. This may sound morbid, but the best example of the shape the industry was in can be found in the number of empty seats on the aircraft used in the attacks. These were becoming typical loads on what had once been a very busy east-west traffic corridor. AA, UA et al were not going to be able to sustain that type of load factor forever.


User currently offlineLayitontheline From Canada, joined Jan 2002, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1765 times:

This pilot will fly again, dont u guys worry.

25 Layitontheline : Does anyone know where I can buy those videos?
26 Post contains links Flyingbronco05 : lets make it an active link: http://www.torontostar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1021068131620&call
27 Ex_SQer : Hey you gotta do what you have to do to survive and earn cash. I got laid off from my management consulting job some time ago and I've been writing bu
28 DirkSavage : If you get a flying job.........do not feel secure in it. Continually look to tranfer over to one of the stronger carriers, even if you have to give u
29 Continental : I know a NWA pilot that was a pilot for 5 years that got laid off, and now he does security screening at MSP. Continental
30 Layitontheline : There is a added benefit to being a pilot, in times like this when you are laid off you can move to a different country and pursue your career there a
31 Vh-daq : i praise this pilot, he may have lost his job but he got another one and he's out there working. two thumbs up! HOOroo DAQ
32 Layitontheline : I wish Marc Sharp the best of luck in his future endeavours and hopefully he will "land" himself in a major airline real soon. I admire the fact that
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