Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3361 times:
Seems to make sense in the UA route strategy.....UA is not a strong player at JFK (the UA flight from JFK to HKG was also not a winner) and there are far more connection opportunities at IAD. UA also serves these South American cities out of MIA, and while that is largely an O & D market. some pax that connected at MIA will now travel via IAD.
I suppose this will leave the JFK-GRU and JFK-EZE market wide open for AA. CO should also benefit as they have direct service to Brazil from Newark, however, CO never started service to Buenos Aires due to the financial crisis in Argentina.
While it all makes sense, I am not certain that this will work for UA.......not sure why I feel that way. I hope that I am wrong!
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33611 posts, RR: 71
Reply 4, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3341 times:
I think it makes sense. IAD simply has more feed than MIA. Passengers in the Northeast that would otherwise have to make a two-stop connection to get to MIA now only have to get to IAD; while the Miami flights will still get feed from the West Coast and MCO/TPA and have more seats available for the higher-yielding O&D traffic.
Cba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3286 times:
Makes a lot more sense. UA needs to develope its IAD hub. UA has minumum feeder flights to JFK, while IAD has a lot more feed. However, IAD does not have the O&D potential that JFK does.
I don't really see DL trying to pick up the slack, as ATL has more opportunities, especially with DL's massive feed their. Delta has little domestic feed into JFK, and their trans-atlantic flights are filled by O&D traffic.
I can see AA beefing up Latin American service from JFK though. Seems like AA is trying to be everywhere these days.
Donder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3274 times:
Good move.Consolidate at IAD.Although IAD does not have JFK's O&D base UA may get more O&D at IAD than JFK due to less competition.Is IAD in a better position geographically than JFK for transfers?
Airworthy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3228 times:
O&D traffic at IAD is growing exponentially.
Remember, IAD was one of the nation's fastest growing airports in the late 1990s. This was attributable to the explosion of tech-industry growth around the N. Virginia corridor, which incidentally is the wealthiest area per capita in the nation.
Once the economy rebounds, Dulles offers the most revenue growth potential of any single hub.
With these flights, UA will have 3 GRU flights again (ORD, IAD, MIA), but only 2 out of the former 3 EZE flights (IAD, MIA).
However, I think JFK-EZE is returning for the winter season only.