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MAS' 9M-MPP Back Cabin Window(less)!  
User currently offlineOdiE From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1921 times:

If you look at MAS' latest B747-400, why there isn't any window at the 6th and 8th window frame? I know this is not normal as on all the B744 that I had been on, including MAS' the back cabin usually all have cabin windows. I know somewhere above the wing, there isn't any window in a couple of seats. Is there any particular reasons for this? Has anyone been on to this aircraft yet? How about other MAS' recent B744, 9M-MPO? Attached is two pictures of the 9M-MPP, and you can see it pretty clearly at the back cabin there is 2 windows missing.

Thank you for your replies.


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User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1845 times:

No idea, by the way they have 9M-MPQ now and its has the name from the -300 `Kuala Lumpur'.

User currently offlineG-KIRAN From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2000, 736 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

The windowless seats are where some ducting from the airconditioner packs come from the engines.

User currently offlineAndrew From Singapore, joined Dec 1999, 369 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1799 times:

It might be the galley, which some airlines prefer to have on one side of the cabin as opposed to smack in the middle of the cabin, aligned with the seats in the middle section.

I know KLM had this config on their 747-300s.


Andrew


User currently offlineCathay Pacific From Australia, joined May 2000, 1864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

But isn't the side galley usually towards the J class section?


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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4747 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1775 times:

Could it be a combi? The aft windows seems to have a lot going on within the cabin. Cargo maybe?


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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5297 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1760 times:

MH don't have any Combi's now!

User currently offlineMr AirNZ From New Zealand, joined Feb 2002, 850 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1743 times:

MH don't have any Combi's now!

They have two 747-4H6 combi's. 9H-MHL and 9H-MHM.

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User currently offlineAFa340-300E From France, joined May 1999, 2084 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1739 times:

Hello,

If you're looking for a complete history of the Boeing 747-400 at Malaysia Airlines... I have recently uploaded an article about that subject on Air Transport Business


Best regards,
Alain Mengus


User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5297 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1715 times:

Both of these aircraft have been withdrawn from service and are in storage in KL! They are for sale!

User currently offlineOdiE From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1706 times:

No I don't think it's a galley, coz MAS have Economy seats all the way at the back cabin. You can find the galley at the fourth door for MAS' Economy Class. MAS' B744 galley is normally aligned along the 4 center seats, and not by the side. However, after door no. 2, there is a disabled restrooms though, thus explaining for the lack of window there.

Is there any other airlines that do not have windows at the back cabin?

MAS still have to combis, but they are in storage. They do not use them anywhere for their scheduled flight now, but I am not too sure for charter. Maybe they could convert them into freighters now, and can probably stop leasing the aircraft from Atlas Air? MAS' last Combi service was in March 2002.

Hkgspotter1: Thanx for the info. I had not seen any photos of the 9M-MPQ here. Do you know if 9M-MPO have any city names on it? As far as I know, MAS' B744 from 9M-MPK to 9M-MPN does not have any names on it.

Regards.


User currently offlineOdiE From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1651 times:

Anybody had another explaination for that?

Thanx!


User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1624 times:

Where in KL are they stored?

User currently offlineHkg_clk From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 999 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1593 times:

Many (but not all - see Thai's new 744s) of the newer build 744s have two less windows near the rear of the aircraft. I am not sure why this is the case, but maybe it is some kind of structural modification to the design of the 744? Have a look at these photos:


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This topic has in fact been discussed previously but there was no conclusion:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/754806

Perhaps we should try posting something in the tech-ops forum?



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User currently offlineOdiE From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1546 times:

Actually the last couple of rows are my favorite seats in the Economy section when I am traveling alone. First of all, there is only another person beside me (I like to sit on the aisle during long-haul due to the "extra" legspace as I am pretty tall, but only window for short-haul!) Without the window, this wouldn't do me any good! The last few rows are the best way I can seat near a window without 2 person beside me.

Airbus Lover: I don't even think some B744s are stored. If they are, then they are probably stored in Avalon, Victoria, Australia, I think. I had not heard anything about MAS parking some B744. Their B777 is fully utilized now, with some shortage of B777 I believe.


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