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Essential Air Service In The South  
User currently offlineRamper@IAH From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 240 posts, RR: 1
Posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1968 times:

I'm trying to figure out what criteria is used to determine the amount of Essential Air Service a state receives. I've noticed that states in the West (North Dakota, Kansas, Utah, et.al) get far more flights than rural states in the South like Mississippi and Alabama. I wonder if EAS routes are considered "pork barrel" items in congress, and states with the more powerful congressmen get more government-funded airline service to remote cities.

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User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6278 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1957 times:

I suspect it has to do with the fact that very few people in the southest US are 200 miles from an airport. In the states you mention, a 200 mile drive to an airline airport is not at all uncommon.


Quit calling an airport ramp "Tarmac" and a taxiway "runway".
User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1921 times:

Piedmont -- point well taken.

Also, you won't find many congressmen more powerful than the big kahuna from Mississippi -- Trent Lott! But the flights to MS seem to be doing well on their own.

Pete (from MS)


User currently offlineDc-9-10 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 584 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

There is just one congressman more powerful than good ol Trent Lott, and that man is Tom Dashel from the great state of South Dakota. He is the only reason why my hometown (aty) still has air service.

Dc-9-10


User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5790 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1889 times:

The EAS regs require a city to be more than 70 miles from a large or medium hub (as defined by the gov't.), with a few exceptions. 200 miles only applies if the subsidy exceeds $200 per passenger. The twist is that every city with service in 1978 is essentially elligible, even NYC or LA, if they ever were in danger of losing all service.

There is a list of cities and subsidies as of Feb, 2001 that includes the distance from a large/med hub at:
http://ostpxweb.dot.gov/aviation/domav/feb15rates.xls
It is interesting to read. For example, Topeka just qualifies at 71 miles.



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5046 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1879 times:

Here in Alabama, the Muscle Shoals Airport receives this designation. it's about an hour away from Huntsville and a little more than 100 from memphis. It is served by only one airline - Northwest Airlink, with only 2 or 3 flights per day to Memphis, and those planes carry about 10 people per flight. Northwest wanted to pull out but they were barred from doing so. People who live there have such limited air service - they're forced to drive 60 miles to an airport that charges high rates for flights.

bruce



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8893 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1861 times:

Could someone decipher that XLS site for me. I am quite lost in the maze seeing which airports are on there.

Thanks

Jeff


User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1834 times:

Jeff,

Best to download target to your had disk, then open it with MS Excel.

Pete


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