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User currently offlineJU101 From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 832 posts, RR: 4
Posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1070 times:

I regularly go to Sofia Airport website, and want to check in on arrivals and departures. Actually i was also interested in seeing the punctuality of airlines serving the Bulgarian capital.

Going through the arrivals, I saw one unprecidented early arrival. JAT Flight JU464 was supposed to arrive at 22:50, and it instead arrived at 22:32. Talk about timing!

Amogst other notable early birds where Austrian (15 minutes early), Tarom (12 minutes early) and Malev (9 minutes early). Going through the usual list of late birds i found Balkan, Hemus, Air France, and CSA Czech Airlines.

Has anyone ever arrived to their final destination 18 minutes early???

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User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1022 times:

Has anyone ever arrived to their final destination 18 minutes early???

This is actually not that early, I would say that the majority of CO flights are early by that or larger margins. As far as Longhaul, I have arrived over an hour early numerous times

Jeremy


User currently offlineGtiagent From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1018 times:

Yes they are early, due to unnecessary padding to the schedule.

User currently offlineI Like To Fly From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1188 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1016 times:

My best domestic time was 44 minutes early from LAS to ORD. Don't ask me how we ended up that early after leaving only 7 minutes early. But I was impressed until I found out one of my bags didn't come with me on that express flight, lol.
-Chris


User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7442 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1016 times:
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There have been a few occasions when transatlantic arrivals to Manchester have arrived an hour early - normally down to very favourable winds!

Most airlines (if not all) allow extra time in their scheduling for holding which means that, for example, the scheduled time taken for LHR-AMS or LHR-CDG is now longer than it was 20 or 30 years ago. This means that on days when there is light amount of traffic arriving or en-route to a destination, certain flights will look as though they are really early, even though the actual flying time is the same as it was a few years ago.

David/MAN


User currently offlineAmmunition From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 1065 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1007 times:

some of the longhaul flights from east asia normally arrive an hour or so early to LHR in the mornings, and many other flights.


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User currently offlineEWRvirgin From United States of America, joined May 2001, 358 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 990 times:

Unnecessary padding? Wouldn't it be more accurate to call it sensible and realistic?

User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 967 times:

Yup, I've done BRS-AMS in 55mins when sched time is 1h 30mins.

Regards

Dan


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8037 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 937 times:

Actually, eastbound transpacific flights in the Northern Pacific are known for being way early. I remember when I picked up my brother on SQ 002 (HKG-SFO) the plane landed at SFO one hour early thanks to the plane riding the jet stream.

User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7768 posts, RR: 27
Reply 9, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 908 times:

Longer Eastbounds across the U.S. can arrive extremely early with a large tailwind. 18 minutes isn't that big.

The biggest one I've ever been on was AA 72 HNL-ORD We were scheduled to arrive at 5:40 am, we arrived at 4:10am! Thats 90 minutes! We were extremely early due to a strong tailwind as we were basically following the jetstream. We also got out of HNL rather quickly, but it was mostly due to the fact we were movin.


User currently offlineNWA Man From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1828 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 898 times:

I've been 40 minutes early on a DFW-MSP run, primarily because we were up in the air so quickly from Dallas-Fort Worth, and landed 40 minutes early on a SEA-MSP run, but worked our way into the gate 15 minutes late due to an earlier flight with a mechanical at our intended gate. Both of those flights were on NW.

Unfortunately, schedule padding is a necessary evil. Taxi time, ATC delays, and other unforeseen short delays must be worked in to the actual flight time, which can change from day to day, based on wind, aircraft, etc. It's better to be safe than sorry when it comes to the schedule.


NWA Man



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User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4029 posts, RR: 27
Reply 11, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 879 times:

For the record, since 9/11 to save money NW has reduced block times (gate to gate) by 6%. Crew members don't start getting paid until the airplane blocks out and stop getting paid when the plane blocks in. Most airlines pay "block or better." Therefore by reducing the blocktimes to more realistic levels in a post 9/11 ATC environment (padding) they save money. This is a huge reason why NW's ontime arrivals and departures have dropped dramatically... not as much padding for incidental things are in the schedule.



AZJ


User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 877 times:

earliest I have ever been was arriving 6:42am on a flight scedualed to arrive 7:45am. This was a continental DC-10 from EWR-ZRH in 2000.

User currently offlineAa777flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 863 times:

A record for me was arriving SFO from HNL in just 3hrs 36min, this put us into SFO over 1hr early

User currently offlineRickster From Austria, joined Dec 2000, 653 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 828 times:

I did have early arrivals in Vienna on Austrian flying in from the United Stated. Between 20 - 30 minutes earlier then scheduled. One real "record flight" was in 1993 on a OS A310-300 from JFK wich landed about one hour earlier. They had a all time record flight on this route in the 90es with an A310, JFK - VIE in some 6,5 hrs or so (usualy 8 - 8.30 hrs.)


User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 816 times:

I have arrived nearly 2 hours early on a BA 744 LHR-BKK flight. The average ground speed was over 1000 km/h! Talk about a strong following wind!


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User currently offlineDeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 812 times:

I flew Delta 12 ATL-LGW a few months back. We left ATL 62 minutes late and arrived LGW 1 minute before scheduled arrival time. I've been on flights that have left Atlanta as much as much as 90 minutes late and arrived on time or early on the 777. Gotta love those eastbound tailwinds.

Although it should be noted that most of the time, when tailwinds are that strong, the flight crew will slow the 777 down to as low as .82, and the 767 and MD-11 even lower, in order to conserve fuel. There's no real reason to arrive 60-70 minutes early, particuarly on flights scheduled to arrive Europe in the early morning, when there may be no ramp crew available to meet the flight that long before scheduled arrival.

Of course, the flip side of that is that on East Coast to Europe flights, the crew can take a fuel burn penalty and cross the ocean fast, at .85 or .86, sometimes even faster, depending how late the flight is and on weather and traffic conditions.

Lately I've been on crossings as slow as .80 or .81 due to congestion, which on the 777 is definitely not as efficient as .84. But we got there on time.



It's a new day. Every moment matters. Now, more than ever.
User currently offlineGodbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2753 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 790 times:

I once flew AC "North America's No. One on time airline" from FRA to YUL and we landed over an hour early. The nice thing was that our flight on to YWG left 4 hours later instead of the scheduled 3 hours...

Max


User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 18, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 773 times:

For the record, since 9/11 to save money NW has reduced block times (gate to gate) by 6%....

This was talked about at Continental also, although they decided against it due to the fact that crews flying International Ops were already having to work about an extra 2 hours longer than block time already. The same with the added Security tax that was going onto all the tickets including non revving, but Continental decided to eat that for pass riders also

Jer


User currently offlineJU101 From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 832 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 746 times:

Guys thanks for all your feedback. I guess flying on the jetstream really does save on fuel costs. Nevertheless i was particularly impressed, since it was a regional flight (1h20 in duration) on an ATR72.

But now asking as similar question - has anyone arrived fairly late, even if the plane took off on time? Now this one i've never heard of...  Insane


User currently offlineGroobster From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 735 times:

yeah, that tailwind certainly makes a difference.

Coming back from Sri Lanka, we had a great tailwind and travelled for quite some time at about 620mph, it cut about an hour off the travel time.

Going out there, headwind 510mph  Sad



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User currently offlineAndie007 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 875 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 725 times:

I've flown LH409 Newark-Duesseldorf in the past.
We departed ontime. Arrival was set for 6:20 am. The Pilot announces that he has to fly more slowly because landing is allowed from 6am. Normally we would arrive at 5:15am. We landed at 5:59am.

Other story: Dusseldorf-London-Heathrow (1h 20 min)
Departure ontime. Flying time nearly 2 hours because of heavy traffic at LHR.



User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 720 times:

Yes...United from Hong Kong to SFO...1:25 early.
Of course, then we had to WAIT FOR A GATE--which somewhat negates the advantage of being so early.


User currently offlineAirFranceJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 480 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 703 times:

18 minutes is nothing, I flew Virgin from LHR-JFK once, arrived an hour and 5 minutes early, too early for folks to pick me up.

User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 696 times:

Of course, there's a flip side to all of these early arrivals: going back. I've made it across the pond eastbound an hour early, but a recent MUC-IAD flight of mine took over 10 hours.

25 Marco : In September 1999 I was on a BA flight from YUL-LHR. The flight was scheduled to be 6 hours and 30 minutes long. With strong tailwinds we made it in 5
26 Post contains images Rootsboy : *All on the A330-300 6J has done: YYZ-DUB in 4h 30min. YYZ-PMI in 7h 8 min. I was working a flight from SNN-YYZ that left 1h late. We got into YYZ 8mi
27 Andrew : I've been on an SQ flight from MEL to SIN on a 773, and arrived at 4:35am when the scheduled arrival time was 5:30am. The head tailwinds averaging 80k
28 Post contains images Leezyjet : That extra 'padding' causes lots of problems on a good day, when everything is running ontime, as stands are allocated on STD, so if you arrive early,
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