JU101 From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 832 posts, RR: 3 Posted (14 years 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1303 times:
I regularly go to Sofia Airport website, and want to check in on arrivals and departures. Actually i was also interested in seeing the punctuality of airlines serving the Bulgarian capital.
Going through the arrivals, I saw one unprecidented early arrival. JAT Flight JU464 was supposed to arrive at 22:50, and it instead arrived at 22:32. Talk about timing!
Amogst other notable early birds where Austrian (15 minutes early), Tarom (12 minutes early) and Malev (9 minutes early). Going through the usual list of late birds i found Balkan, Hemus, Air France, and CSA Czech Airlines.
Has anyone ever arrived to their final destination 18 minutes early???
I Like To Fly From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1188 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (14 years 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1249 times:
My best domestic time was 44 minutes early from LAS to ORD. Don't ask me how we ended up that early after leaving only 7 minutes early. But I was impressed until I found out one of my bags didn't come with me on that express flight, lol.
David_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7810 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (14 years 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1249 times:
There have been a few occasions when transatlantic arrivals to Manchester have arrived an hour early - normally down to very favourable winds!
Most airlines (if not all) allow extra time in their scheduling for holding which means that, for example, the scheduled time taken for LHR-AMS or LHR-CDG is now longer than it was 20 or 30 years ago. This means that on days when there is light amount of traffic arriving or en-route to a destination, certain flights will look as though they are really early, even though the actual flying time is the same as it was a few years ago.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8362 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (14 years 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1170 times:
Actually, eastbound transpacific flights in the Northern Pacific are known for being way early. I remember when I picked up my brother on SQ 002 (HKG-SFO) the plane landed at SFO one hour early thanks to the plane riding the jet stream.
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 8141 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (14 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1141 times:
Longer Eastbounds across the U.S. can arrive extremely early with a large tailwind. 18 minutes isn't that big.
The biggest one I've ever been on was AA 72 HNL-ORD We were scheduled to arrive at 5:40 am, we arrived at 4:10am! Thats 90 minutes! We were extremely early due to a strong tailwind as we were basically following the jetstream. We also got out of HNL rather quickly, but it was mostly due to the fact we were movin.
NWA Man From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1828 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (14 years 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1131 times:
I've been 40 minutes early on a DFW-MSP run, primarily because we were up in the air so quickly from Dallas-Fort Worth, and landed 40 minutes early on a SEA-MSP run, but worked our way into the gate 15 minutes late due to an earlier flight with a mechanical at our intended gate. Both of those flights were on NW.
Unfortunately, schedule padding is a necessary evil. Taxi time, ATC delays, and other unforeseen short delays must be worked in to the actual flight time, which can change from day to day, based on wind, aircraft, etc. It's better to be safe than sorry when it comes to the schedule.
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4365 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (14 years 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1112 times:
For the record, since 9/11 to save money NW has reduced block times (gate to gate) by 6%. Crew members don't start getting paid until the airplane blocks out and stop getting paid when the plane blocks in. Most airlines pay "block or better." Therefore by reducing the blocktimes to more realistic levels in a post 9/11 ATC environment (padding) they save money. This is a huge reason why NW's ontime arrivals and departures have dropped dramatically... not as much padding for incidental things are in the schedule.
Rickster From Austria, joined Dec 2000, 653 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (14 years 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1061 times:
I did have early arrivals in Vienna on Austrian flying in from the United Stated. Between 20 - 30 minutes earlier then scheduled. One real "record flight" was in 1993 on a OS A310-300 from JFK wich landed about one hour earlier. They had a all time record flight on this route in the 90es with an A310, JFK - VIE in some 6,5 hrs or so (usualy 8 - 8.30 hrs.)
DeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (14 years 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1045 times:
I flew Delta 12 ATL-LGW a few months back. We left ATL 62 minutes late and arrived LGW 1 minute before scheduled arrival time. I've been on flights that have left Atlanta as much as much as 90 minutes late and arrived on time or early on the 777. Gotta love those eastbound tailwinds.
Although it should be noted that most of the time, when tailwinds are that strong, the flight crew will slow the 777 down to as low as .82, and the 767 and MD-11 even lower, in order to conserve fuel. There's no real reason to arrive 60-70 minutes early, particuarly on flights scheduled to arrive Europe in the early morning, when there may be no ramp crew available to meet the flight that long before scheduled arrival.
Of course, the flip side of that is that on East Coast to Europe flights, the crew can take a fuel burn penalty and cross the ocean fast, at .85 or .86, sometimes even faster, depending how late the flight is and on weather and traffic conditions.
Lately I've been on crossings as slow as .80 or .81 due to congestion, which on the 777 is definitely not as efficient as .84. But we got there on time.
It's a new day. Every moment matters. Now, more than ever.
Godbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2753 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (14 years 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1023 times:
I once flew AC "North America's No. One on time airline" from FRA to YUL and we landed over an hour early. The nice thing was that our flight on to YWG left 4 hours later instead of the scheduled 3 hours...
Artsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4748 posts, RR: 32
Reply 18, posted (14 years 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1006 times:
For the record, since 9/11 to save money NW has reduced block times (gate to gate) by 6%....
This was talked about at Continental also, although they decided against it due to the fact that crews flying International Ops were already having to work about an extra 2 hours longer than block time already. The same with the added Security tax that was going onto all the tickets including non revving, but Continental decided to eat that for pass riders also
JU101 From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 832 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (14 years 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 979 times:
Guys thanks for all your feedback. I guess flying on the jetstream really does save on fuel costs. Nevertheless i was particularly impressed, since it was a regional flight (1h20 in duration) on an ATR72.
But now asking as similar question - has anyone arrived fairly late, even if the plane took off on time? Now this one i've never heard of...
Andie007 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 884 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (14 years 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 958 times:
I've flown LH409 Newark-Duesseldorf in the past.
We departed ontime. Arrival was set for 6:20 am. The Pilot announces that he has to fly more slowly because landing is allowed from 6am. Normally we would arrive at 5:15am. We landed at 5:59am.
Other story: Dusseldorf-London-Heathrow (1h 20 min)
Departure ontime. Flying time nearly 2 hours because of heavy traffic at LHR.