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User currently offline717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 6
Posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1580 times:

Will SAS add more MD-90's to its fleet? Once they had planned something like this, I think. IMO this would be a logical step: They can replace older MD-80's with MD-90's who are waiting in the desert and who might be very cheap...
What do you think?

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User currently offlineVoodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2073 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1571 times:

I had thought they were in fact, trying to dispose of them.
A321s are arriving......
Hence, no MD-90s have been painted in the new livery.
Correct me if wrong.
I would certainly like to see at least one in the new livery!



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User currently offlineRwy31R From Saudi Arabia, joined Aug 2001, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1564 times:

Unfortunatlly MD-90's are very un-popular. Airlines who own it (eg. SV) are not happy with it. SAS went with 737NG (competitor to the MD-90) as well as A321. I don't see them aqiuring more MD-90, even with thier cheap price tag.


"Saudia Three Five hold short Three One Right"
User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2899 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1555 times:

It's true, I never heard of SAS planning to add additional MD-90s. But on the other hand, I never heard of SAS planning to retire their present MD-90 fleet. The fact that no MD-90 has been painted in the new livery yet has been discussed on this forum a few weeks ago: SAS seems to repaint their aircraft only after heavy maintenance, and the MD-90s obviously have not yet been due for that. You can see a few MD-80s as well in the old livery.

Btw, are there really large numbers of MD-90s parked in the desert? I can't think of any airline that retired more than maybe one or two MD-90s. What airlines/aircraft are you talking about?


User currently offlineSk945 From Sweden, joined May 2002, 432 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1538 times:

I got some news (not sure if they will be correct) but the first MD90 (SE-DMH) will go for repaint on July the 6th. 3 more MD90 are scheduled for repaint during July this year. But we have to wait to see if this will be correct.
Regards,


User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1529 times:

The day's of the MD-90 in service are numbered. Delta is planing to dispose of there's by 2005 if I'm not mistaken. The ex-Reno MD-90's that AA returned to Boeing last year are still siting in the desert the last I heard. If you go to Boeing's web site and look up aircraft for lease there still listed. If SAS wanted more of them they could get them quickly. But I don't think they will.
In fact when I worked in Long Beach for Boeing there was a letter from SAS posted stating how disappointed they were with the aircraft.

Rwy31R said they are unpopular with the airlines that have them. This is very true, I know from experience. The main problem with it is the VSCF electrical system. It looked good in paper, but in service it's a pain.



User currently offline717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1485 times:

Ndebele, 5 ex-AA, 3 ex-AirAruba and 2 or 3 ex-AMC of Egypt are somewhere in the desert, and I think Saudi Arabian has also parked 2....

User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1471 times:

Why are they so unpopular?Poor range?

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16245 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1445 times:

SAS is actually happy with the MD-90, and looked at procuring used MD-90's, They looked at the 5 ex-QQ/AA machines but opted against due to a lack of cockpit commonality.

The MD-90 has the same basic engine as the SAS A321, so there is some commonality in addition to the MD-80 fleet.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineTR From UK - England, joined May 2001, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1397 times:

As far as I´ve heard SAS has not given up the idea of purchasing additional - obviously second hand - MD-90s as replacement for the MD-87 fleet (as well as older MD-81, -82 and -83s). However not many aircraft are available for sale or lease. The ex-QQ/AA machines was to my knowledge not taken up due to price. However there might be something on the lack of cockpit commonality as well. Anyway I personally like the MD-90s very much as they offer a very, very silent cabin environment.

User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1385 times:

Donder10:

The main reason the MD-90's unpopularity is it's poor reliability compared to other airliners. Also it's not as efficient when compared to the 737NG or the A320.


User currently offlineRwy31R From Saudi Arabia, joined Aug 2001, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1307 times:

Well speaking for SV, I know that pilots are not happy with the flight systems offered on the MD-90 (specially after knowing that they were so close from flying 737NG). SV are not pleased with MD-90 capabilities on landing at many Saudi airports. I have heared that Boeing has discussed 717 and/or 736 as replacements for all or some of the 29 in service with SV. Personally I don't see that happening.


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