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CI611 Missing On The Way To Hong Kong (VHHH)  
User currently offlineAirbus_A340 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 20
Posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 26331 times:

Breaking News-CI611 missing on the way to Hong Kong (VHHH) Reported to be a 747.

Trevor


People. They make an airline. www.cathaypacific.com
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User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 26122 times:

Just saw it on the news, looks like they are back to their best. Very sad.

User currently offlineVh-daq From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2001, 182 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 26080 times:

just saw the news report on chinese TV

lets just hope that everything is okay...??

another CI crash....is this saying something??


HOOroo
DAQ


User currently offlineB0047 From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2000, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 26060 times:

Well, lets not jump to conclusions, but if worst comes to worst... then, jeez, 747 crash, that's nasty. Hope for the best...

Nick


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 26056 times:

Its B-18255, the last 747-209 in service with CI. (Not including the three -209F's)

User currently offlineFly_airbus From Australia, joined Oct 2000, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 26042 times:

Any more updates? Rego? They said there were 200-odd pax onboard..

User currently offlineHkg82 From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2002, 1266 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 26045 times:

Let's hope everything turns out ok & nothing happens. What channel did you guys see the news report on?

Hkg82.


User currently offlineRey777 From France, joined Apr 2001, 170 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 26042 times:

Just heard on Euronews too...

A 747 from Taipei to Hong Kong with more than 200 pax on board is missing...


User currently offlineHoons90 From Malaysia, joined Aug 2001, 2999 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 26029 times:
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OMG... terrible news,  Sad


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User currently offlineTrickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 26017 times:

Man, man, man. This is not good. The Chinese airline industry has been in the news quite a few times this month.


Its better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than be in the air wishing you were on the ground. Fly safe!
User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 26023 times:

omigod hope everything is fine.

User currently offlineHkg82 From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2002, 1266 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 26000 times:

Oh found it, it's channel 9 on Cable but it's in Chinese...

This doesn't look good!

Hkg82.


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 25974 times:

Here it is


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Photo © Arthur Yu



User currently offlineHkg82 From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2002, 1266 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 25972 times:

OMG! CNN is reporting that it might've crashed into the sea! They quoted Reuters as saying that comments from airport & airline officials in Taiwan that the 747 might have crashed into the sea!!





User currently offlineTC-MNC From Germany, joined Jan 2002, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 25957 times:

hi,

very sad day. german news channel says, that it was an 747-200. the only 200 PAX from CI is B-18255.

hope the best.


User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 25946 times:

trickijedi, China Airlines (CI) is based in Taiwan.

User currently offlineRey777 From France, joined Apr 2001, 170 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 25897 times:

Taiwan officials (AP) said it crashed into the sea.... Sad news...
220 pax and 19 crew members...


User currently offlineHoons90 From Malaysia, joined Aug 2001, 2999 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 25873 times:
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CNN is reporting of life vests and oil in the sea!?!?!?!


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User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 25876 times:

CNN said it has crashed but will bring more info....CNN breaking news on TV

User currently offlineRey777 From France, joined Apr 2001, 170 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 25876 times:


Here's what I found...

"TAIPEI (Reuters) - A China Airlines Boeing 747-200 is believed to have crashed into the sea on Saturday after it went missing en route from Taiwan to Hong Kong, airport and airline officials said.

"It disappeared from the radar. Judging from the situation, it crashed into the sea," airport spokesman Wei Sheng-chih told Reuters by telephone."


User currently offlineAirbus_A340 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 25866 times:

News just in- There is oil and life jackets reported to have been found, but no people reported to be alive.

Trevor



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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5293 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (12 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 25852 times:

Oh Dear! Doesn't sound good.  Crying

Just heard on CNN that the Boeing 747 may have crashed not confirmed yet.


User currently offlineShamrock_747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (12 years 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 25854 times:

BBC (UK) News report that it vanished from radar screens whilst near the Taiwanese island of Penghu, at around 0713 GMT shortly after leaving Taipei. Taiwan's governmant have said the Air Force and Coast Guard are searching for it. It is thought to have crahsed into the sea. Around 200 were onboard.

This is terrible news.

Shamrock_747


User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (12 years 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 25843 times:

omigod....!!! i cant believe this my friends were gonna fly CI next week but dont think will happen...

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 24, posted (12 years 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 25840 times:

Oh dear  Sad  Sad  Sad

16:25 CI 611 Taipei A China Airlines Delay
Hong Kong Airport



Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
25 Post contains links 9V-SVE : CNN Report: http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/east/05/25/taiwan.plane.ap/index.html Sad indeed. Plus its a 747...
26 Skippy777 : We all hope for the best. But a crash landing in sea is not very nice. Saw it ounces with that hijacked plane that had to make an emergency landing in
27 Post contains links Singapore_Air : Taiwan Premier Yu Shyi-kun confirmed on Saturday a China Airlines Boeing 747-200 crashed into the sea after it went missing en route from Taiwan to Ho
28 Post contains images Cathay pacific : Oh, not another one Let's hope there will be survivors.......
29 Andreas777 : Just reading on BBC, that it is actually a Boeing 747-400. However, on BBC News 24 (TV) it is still reported as a Boeing 747-200...
30 Fritzi : I have also heard about the life vests and oil on both CNN and BBC. Very sad indeed. Hopefully there are survivors.
31 Apuneger : Damn, this is not good at all. I w
32 Post contains links Singapore_Air : Plane disappeared from radar screens shortly after 1500 local time at Penghu. A Boeing 747 with more than 200 on board. A CI spokesman said it was not
33 SailorOrion : 203 passengers, 19 crew SailorOrion
34 Post contains images Singapore_Air : The ATC people say that the plane has disappeared off the screen but they don't say it was descending rapidly. What could that mean?
35 Hkg82 : If it did crash, which seems more likely now with all the reports, what could've happened? Any theories? What was the weather like on the flight path?
36 Fritzi : Maybe the transponder has malfuncioned?
37 Post contains links Flying-Tiger : The OAG lists the flight CI 611 as a B747-400 flight. But that´s not too interesting at the moment, hopefully they can recover survivors. Flying-Tige
38 Airbus Lover : Hkg82 it is still too early to comment or draw theory.... I dont think we have enough reports to come out with one.
39 Post contains images ZK-NBT : Just heard that the plane has crashed into the sea! It disappeared from radar less than 20 minutes into the 1.5 hour flight.
40 Etravelconsult : It has been reported on BBC that China Airlines has crashed into the ocean. This was announced a few minutes ago by the Taiwanese Prime Minister. Heli
41 Post contains links Pakistania : CNN just said that 254 and 19 crew were on the plane. This crash was the 19 in CI history (3 of them 747´s) Last CI-crash was happened Mandarin MD-11
42 Fritzi : CNN now says a 747-200 has crashed into the sea. 21843 386 B747-209B JT9D-7AW 07/31/79 CHINA AIRLINES B-18255 B-1866 The airplane was 23 years old
43 ZK-NBT : Reported that it was more than 20 years old 747-200! 225 on board! No survivor's have been found! Very sad!
44 Airbus Lover : Unlucky CI who has tried so hard lately to improve safety records?!?
45 Standby87 : Terrible news - I've flown that route more enough times on China Airlines. If it's true it came down near Penghu (Makung) it should have been at 20000
46 Post contains images Captain.md-11 : My thoughts are with the families
47 Post contains images Sabena 690 : Again sad news Let's hope that they find some survivors... RIP to all who died. Regards, Frederic
48 AirNewZealand : Very sad indeed! I hope survivors are found. The seatbelt sign should of been off at that time, and the Flight Attendants would of been serving out be
49 Mika : My thoughts are with the families that lost someone in that crash. RIP.
50 Fritzi : May the victims Rest in Peace. My condolences go the their loved ones and friends.
51 ZK-NBT : Condolences to the families may the lord bless you!
52 L-188 : Hopefully there is a happy conclusion to this but it doesn't look that way. I am allready getting ticked off any the few people who think the age of t
53 Positive rate : Was there any distress call from the pilots? It seems very odd that a 747 can crash only 20 mins into a flight without the pilotstransmitting a mayday
54 Fritzi : Positive rate, If you have a high demand on a route, no matter the distance, the airline will use the aircraft which can handle the amount of passenge
55 Hoons90 : Korean Air operates SEL-CJU and sometimes SEL-PUS with 747-400. SEL-CJU is only 1 hrs and 5 mins long, and SEL-PUS is only about 45 minutes. about 250
56 Blueskies : Yes, it is a very high density route, especially if we talk about the amount of seats. Today, CI had 13 flights on the route, almost all of them are f
57 Standby87 : Positive: TPE-HKG is one of the busiest routes in Asia, partly due to a ban on direct Taiwan to Mainland China flights, so any pax between the two hav
58 Kaitak : The OAG does indeed list this flight as a 744, but it does seem to be a -200. It is an immensely tragic event, but unfortunately for CAL, yet another
59 Hkg82 : Yeah, the 747 is economical to operate in such high-density routes as the airline will be able to fill more passengers per flight than with other airc
60 F-WWKH : Ooops..have been flying that route numerous times, though normally A300s and B747-400s. B-18255 was due to be retired and sold to Orient Thai. Well...
61 Hkgspotter1 : So B-18255 was for OX ?, what about the -300 some are reporting ? This makes me so mad that the same carrier can crash over and over again. What the h
62 Fritzi : It cant have been a 743 as Cl doesn´t operate them.
63 Hkgspotter1 : Yes, I'm aware of that !! I'm saying what about the -300 that some people say OX are getting.
64 F-WWKH : Nobody said they do! READ! And airlines do add aircraft to their fleets, nothing unusual.
65 F-WWKH : HKG1: They do have two -300s, or you refer to new -300s bound for them?
66 Bobcat : It appears to have disappeared from radar at 34000-ft... What are some likely causes for this incident? Two other -100/-200-series 747s come to mind..
67 Dcy : Hm well. The analogy to TWA800 popped up immediately in my mind. TWA800 was also quite early in the flight and also a 747 classic. Let's not jump to t
68 Hkgspotter1 : F-WWKH, They have NO 747-300's. END OF STORY.
69 Post contains links Cathay pacific : A link to the BBC story on CI611 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_2007000/2007740.stm
70 F-WWKH : So, what -300s are YOU referring to then in your original posting???
71 Airbus_A340 : He just said! "I'm saying what about the -300 that some people say OX are getting." Trevor
72 Hkgspotter1 : "So B-18255 was for OX ?, what about the -300 some are reporting ?" Like I said, some people are saying OX will get a -300. Now on this thread I hear
73 F-WWKH : I dont care 'some people' if he posts it he's the source. So? And of course I stand corrected, HS-UTP & HS-UTH are -100/200s. No reason to shout.
74 F.pier : Condolences to all the families who had this tragedy
75 Post contains images Airbus_A340 : He isn't shouting, I think we're all a bit worked up a bit, it's all settled, we will know sooner or later. It's very sad filming this plane just last
76 Post contains images Hkgspotter1 : F-WWKH, 200+ people have just been killed, please give it a rest. We can talk about OX another day. For the record one body has now been found.
77 Dcy : Newest report from CNN. 225 people on board, 206 pax, 19 crew. 50 minutes into the flight. No distress call - just vanished from the radar screens. B7
78 Airbus_A340 : Dcy, we shouldn't jump to conclusions just yet. Trevor
79 Post contains images SOHK : Very sad to know that CI had another accident.
80 F-WWKH : Hkg, that comment was pretty much superfluous. My collegues and friends could be on board, too. But noted. Let's postpone...
81 TimdeGroot : Indeed A340 let just wait for an official accident report before we jump to conclusions!
82 9V-SVA : Hmm, saddening indeed. I only just saw the news on Channel NewsAsia and yes, there are 255 pax on board. 9V-SVA
83 Post contains images Bobcat : This flight was supposed to be the last passenger-carrying flight for this 747-200. It was scheduled to be de-commissioned after returning from HKG to
84 Karliboy : oh dear Bobcat, if this is true, it's rather unfortunate(to say the least)!!!
85 Post contains images RayChuang : This is NOT good news. I hope they recover the CVR's and FDR's post haste. I have my concerns about older 747's given the history of older 747's suffe
86 777236ER : THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH CLASSIC 747S. No electrical problems. No structural problems. Okay. I'm going to say it out loudly .... Center Fuel Tank e
87 D-AIGW : Just a few more points to add, as appeared on TVB news a few minutes ago: Some farmers have reported that they observed torn pieces of paper (I think
88 Dc10guy : Sad, Sad, news ... sounds like another TWA 800 ...
89 Ac826 : hey papers on board......that means no fire
90 Bobcat : D-AIGW, If they found pieces of paper(inflight-magazine or otherwise), doesn't that suggest the plane broke up in mid-air? Does know how deep the sea
91 D-AIGW : The paper appeared to be burnt, though. There might have been a sudden explosion... and I think that the aircraft possibly disintegrated instantly.
92 9V-SVE : That plane had 64,810 Flight Hours and 21,398 landings. Quite an old plane for an Asian airline. Source: Yahoo! Taiwan
93 777236ER : Stop speculating. It could have quite easily caught fire when it hit the water, and it would have deffinatly broken up when it hit the water. No evide
94 Post contains links D-AIGW : For those concerned, you might want to check out CI's website: http://www.china-airlines.com/us/index.htm There's a name list of the crew and passenge
95 Post contains images Dcy : 777236ER ... funny you should say that, 777236ER ... wasn't it you who tried to persuade me in the debate about TWA800 that it was a center fuel tank
96 Hkgspotter1 : This makes me so mad that they are allowed to have another crash. They should have been closed down years ago. THIS IS THE STATE CARRIER FOR CHRIST SA
97 Post contains images Leezyjet : Sky news just reported that CI don't think it was mechanical failure.... so suggests either bomb or centre tank explosion ????? we'll have to wait n s
98 Post contains images 777236ER : Dcy, I tried to convince you it WASN'T a centre tank explosion!!! 1) Plane's radio communication systems died and they were unable to send the distres
99 Hkgspotter1 : Leezyjet, You are 100% correct. If that was me I don't think I could stop myself from smacking them in the face.
100 Post contains images 777236ER : *feels stupid* Dcy, I tried to convince you it WASN'T a centre tank explosion!!! Yeah, i did try to argue that it was But that was against your agrume
101 D-AIGW : That's a very good analysis, but who will want to terrorize (or sabotage, is that the right word?) an aircraft flying TPE-HKG with bombs? The clear ai
102 F-WWKH : Taiwan and CAL have looked into it and formed task force long time ago. They are very concerned about the reputation of CAL and what that sends for si
103 Post contains links D-AIGW : According to CI website, the aircraft completed A check on May 3, B check on April 4 and construction C check on November 25, 2001. More details in CI
104 Teahan : Hello, Absolutely terrible news! My thoughts and prayers will be with the victims and their families. Someone on PPRUNE mentioned that it was going to
105 Bobcat : Just saw a live feed on my Ku-band dish... free-to-air stuff.. Some farmers found luggage tags(with CI611 flight number and today's date), magazines a
106 Hkgspotter1 : I hope this news of 35,000 meters is wrong !!! ============================================= China Airlines plane crashes over Taiwan Strait 2002-05-2
107 Singapore_Air : One has to remember that China Airlines appointed a woman CEO to oversee the airline, especially on safety issues. Up until now she had done a good jo
108 MilesDependent : 1. China Northern crash in Dalian 2. Egypt Airlines crash in Tunis 3. Air China crash in Busan 4. China Airlines crash near Taipei 5. Bac-1-11 crash i
109 Airbus1 : Dear hkgspotter, I often enjoy your contributions to this forum. But please, lets not beat up CI until we have a better clue what happened. It is unus
110 Hkgspotter1 : Hi Robert, I understand what you mean, however just look at the crashes that have been the fault of CI. Thats already enough for them to be closed dow
111 Post contains images Leezyjet : Sky News just reported 100 bodies recovered so far .......
112 Positive rate : I must agree with Dcy on this one. There was definitely an in flight break up that much is known- what caused the breakup? It was an inflight explosio
113 TK : My condolences to the families and friends of the victims. 777236ER, Stop speculating. It could have quite easily caught fire when it hit the water, a
114 777236ER : scattered/burnt debris, sudden loss of radio contact points to one fact: that this was a mid-air breakup Not nessecarily. You're jumping to conclusion
115 Leezyjet : Now there has been a train crash in Mozambique (117 dead), whats going on today ????
116 Post contains images CX773 : I was so shocked and sad about this crash. I heard the news while i was working.
117 Airsicknessbag : I understand from the CI website that the single European was a Swiss gentlemen, is this correct? My Chinese is not good enough to confirm this. Dani
118 Post contains links and images AWspicious : View Large View MediumPhoto © Arthur Yu Guess we know now... :-(
119 9V-SPK : Just got back from celebration of my birthday but the SOHK informed me of the tragedy, or I would have no idea that CI crashed. God bless all the vict
120 Airbus_A340 : Robert, the news just reported that CI have had 9 fatal crashes since 1970, I do believe that Hkgspotter1 has a point there. I have personally flown o
121 Dcy : Can I say one thing? These people the mass media are now showing on TV have lost their relatives. The mass media should have some ethics and let the p
122 Cathay250 : My condolences to the families and friends of the victims. I remember there was someone in this forum said they would fly Koreaair and China airlines
123 F-WWKH : I said that long time ago after B-150, but not referring to road accidents. Perhaps everyone should just decide himself which airline he flies? Negati
124 RayChuang : I think for this accident the black boxes are going to be critical in finding out what happened. If these units suddenly stopped working (like it was
125 Post contains images DC-10 Levo : Just heard on Sky News that 100 bodies have been recovered from the sea. This is bad. DC-10
126 Post contains images Leftseat86 : Oh crap....... Pilot Error is something that comes up all over CI's safety record, it seems they even have trouble landing perfectly good aircraft in
127 Airbus1 : Trevor and Daryl, I dont disagree with either of you . It is an alarming safety record. But I do strongly believe that they have been making significa
128 Airsicknessbag : Add 2 707s lost in 79 and 80, respectively, to that list, both involving fatalities. Oh, and why cut it off at 1970? I believe the three fatal DC3 acc
129 H. Simpson : This is too sad man...all the air disasters like come a wave and gone... :-(
130 Mr.BA : CI again... God Bless everyone involved. I agree with Hkgspotter1, something must be done to prevent this mess again. All these accidents are enough f
131 9V-SPK : UPDATE Reported just now that during 3:37 - 3:40pm Hong Kong time two Cathay Pacific flight passing over the area where the plane crashed recieved Eme
132 Airbus Lover : 9V-SPK where did you hear that from? If it were true, then the crew was aware of some problems on the aicraft?
133 Dcy : Airbus lover. These are beacons that are activated when the FDR or CVR fall into the water (so they can be found easier).
134 9V-SPK : Just on the instant news in Hong Kong. Actually, it means that the plane HAS already crashed when sending those "Positioning Reporter", meaning that t
135 Airbus Lover : THank you Dcy and SPK for brighten me up on that. Does this mean the exact (well almost exact) position of the CVR and FDR is known so the recovery of
136 Krisair747 : A lot of us working terminal C in Newark, heard about the news at about the same time, and we were all horrified. A lot of us had a couple minutes of
137 JU101 : What a disaster. This is the fourth chinese plane to go down during the month of May! What is happening with the maintenance over there? Is it perhaps
138 Hkgspotter1 : JU101. 1 x Air China = TAIWAN 1 x China Northern = CHINA 1 x Air China = CHINA Whats the 3rd and 4th CHINESE plane that crashed this month ?
139 Airbus_A340 : JU101: "What is happening with the maintenance over there?" Taiwan and Mainland China are very different, don't mix them up... Trevor
140 Hkgspotter1 : That should be: 1 x China Airlines 1 x Air China 1 x China Northern
141 Jbangert : Although I agree it is premature to jump to conclusions, I can't refrain from drawing a parallel with TW800 and PA103 either and I find Dcy's analysis
142 9V-SPK : UPDATE News in Hong Kong have reported that 2 CI flights have left from TPE to Peng Hu to carry the familes to the site. Also more than 10 familes in
143 Singapore_Air : Jbangert, unfortunately I agree. There seems to be strange resemblance between TW800 and CI611. Firstly, the "speculation" of an inflight explosion, c
144 Post contains links and images N751PR : My condolences to the victims families. It is sad to see CI's last hardworking passenger 742 go down with more than 200 onboard and before retirement.
145 Singapore_Air : I've also noticed that Boeing have not issued a statement on this tragic crash. They normally do whether it's a weekend or a weekday don't they?
146 9V-SPK : Update Taiwan's Aviation Safety Council (ASC) have already got the conversations between CI611 and the ATC from the plane that took off from TPE till
147 Kaitak : Just watching the BBC news at 5.15pm (12.15EST/00.15HKG); there are items of debris which appear to have fallen on dry land; this would surely indicat
148 Post contains images 777236ER : So the recovery operation isn't over and already people have declared it's a centre fuel tank explosion a la TWA800 The signs point to countless possi
149 Kaitak : Sorry 777236ER, you are correct; I used "TWA800" loosely to refer to a general mechanical failure (which could yet be a fuel tank explosion*), rather
150 Post contains images Air Taiwan : My deepest condolences to the friends and families of the victims... Jimmy
151 Post contains images Monarch : Also as many other members have done, my deepest condolences go out to the friends & families of the victims involved! Best regards Monarch
152 Bobcat : Kaitak, What was the outcome of the investigation into the CI A340 incident at ANC? Last I heard, the pilot and co-pilot were stilled suspended with p
153 SAS23 : Hmmm, another aircraft killed by Kapton wire, I wonder?
154 Danialanwar : Structural failure ... could it have been something similar to what happened to JAL123(?) enroute from Haneda to Osaka where the back of the pressure
155 Arsenal@LHR : Firstly, condolences to those families who've lost relatives/friends. It's quite pre-mature to start asking about what happened happened and the cause
156 Post contains images Monarch : News reporters DO NOT have any respect for the relatives of the victims. It is totally sick the way they all push to get a picture of a women is distr
157 Red Panda : I can't believe that "TWA 800" kind of accident happened to this part of the world as well. I really wanna know what caused the accidents? And why the
158 Chiawei : According to chinatimes. It appears that authority has recovered some luggage, some insulation, and some inflgiht magazine at chang hua. Which is abou
159 Post contains images Monarch : What time is it out there???? Surely this would hinder the recovery process if it was night-time out there now. Best regards Monarch
160 PW100 : First off all off course my respect to all the relatives and all you at Air China and the Taiwanese people. This must be really devastating for CI. Bu
161 JAL : Terrible news. My condolences to the victims families.
162 Chiawei : The flight took off during the mid afternoon at 3:00PM local time.
163 Post contains links Flyingbronco05 : Here are some articles I compiled for you all: "Rescuers scour sea for Taiwan air crash victims" http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/020525/crash_taiwan_11.html "
164 Serge : Very sad... my dad just woke me up with the news. I immediately thought of a TWA-800 like incident as well, before even touching the computer... But w
165 Ph-kcg : accident: .... (no words) discussion: I prefer to wait for an official report pointing out possible causes of this accident.
166 Radarbeam : Airbus lover. These are beacons that are activated when the FDR or CVR fall into the water (so they can be found easier). Dcy, what 9V-SPK was referri
167 Dcy : Thank you Radarbeam for correcting me. I checked some information about ELTs right now and if I am correct they usually have their own source of power
168 Radarbeam : ELTs are powered by their own batteries, which needs to be changed every 2 years for recertification of the Certificate of Airworthiness. As for the l
169 Post contains images Radarbeam : Here's what an ELT looks like, too bad this picture is in black and white but an ELT is bright international orange.
170 Post contains links OPNLguy : Just to make something clear, http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/CVR_FDR.htm http://www.l-3ar.com/html/fa2100_family_of_products.html Factual stuff often ge
171 CXCPA : The paper on the plane has not been burnt! So it is not explosion. There are no fire in the mid-air reported. It is slearly show that it is cause by m
172 Post contains images Leftseat86 : Why poor maintenance? What If a reverser deployed in flight? (See the crash of the LAudaAir 767 near Bangkok in 1991) What if there was a pressurizati
173 Post contains images Red Panda : all of the belows are speculations from the media, some of them are quite creative! Possible Causes of the Accident: 1.) got hit by patroit missle (ma
174 Johnboy : Just curious, but why can't we speculate on what happened? Repeat after me....."it's just an aviation web page...it's just an aviation web page.."
175 Airbus_A340 : News just reported the black-box has just been found. Trevor
176 Post contains links Singapore_Air : Rescue workers in Taiwan have located the "black box" flight recorders from a Boeing 747 which crashed into the sea on Saturday with more than 200 peo
177 Kaitak : I've just received the accident digest from Aviation Safety network (which sends out emails with accident details just after a crash); this aircraft w
178 Hkg82 : The discovery of the blackbox will shed some light on what happened. This is by far the most mysterious incident in CI's history of air crashes so it'
179 VirginFlyer : I think it is too early to speculate in much depth, however it does appear that there was some form of catastrophic breakup in flight. IF, and this is
180 Airbus_A340 : The Black-box's are confirmed NOT to have been found, I repeat they have NOT been found.- BBC World News. Trevor
181 VirginFlyer : Another thought I forgot to put in my last posting. This was going to be B-18255's last revenue flight with CI. However, the flight was originally mea
182 Positive rate : Some people have mentioned that pieces of paper recovered from the wreckage do not bear any signs of fire damage there there wasn't an inflight explos
183 Hkgspotter1 : BBC now say it broke into FOUR parts !!!. Not sure how they know that.
184 Post contains images Hkgspotter1 : THIS FROM CNN =============== "We are very certain the plane disintegrated while above 30,000 feet (9,144 metres)," Kay Yong, managing director of Tai
185 Kaitak : That the 747 broke into four parts is being reported by the BBC and ITN; it comes from a report by the Taiwanese government rather than CAL. However,
186 RayChuang : I believe that the problem with the center fuselage tank is not an issue with the 747-400, which very likely has a very different center fuselage fuel
187 Swissgabe : Flew B-18255 on 10OCT01 on HKG-TPE, very sad...
188 Fanofjets : Just woke up the next morning to learn about this terrible news. I join the rest of the Airliners.net community in sorrow. Among the several airliners
189 SQ777 : I flew B-18255 two months ago on TPE-HKG. I must said that it was a very smooth flight even though B-18255 must be the oldest plane that I have flown
190 VirginFlyer : Ray Cheung - Nonsense, there are other airlines than Northwest that use 747 Classics - Qantas, Air Atlanta Icelandic, Virgin Atlantic, Iberia, Thai, A
191 Trintocan : This is very shocking news indeed - 225 die like that. My condolences to those who lost loved ones in the accident - may they all rest in peace. I wil
192 LZ-TLT : Terrible incident....after reading ALL the speculations in the thread, just a little trial on logical thinking(or logical speculations, if you will).
193 RedAirForce : RedPanda, Why would it only have been a US patriot missle that shot it down (even though there is no evidence of this whatsoever)? Maybe, if the missl
194 Post contains images Twaneedsnohelp : Maybe a Ukrainian missile. They haven't been very responsible vis a vis commerical airliners recently.
195 Mika : It shall be interesting to see what caused this crash. As many people have pointed out, the similarities to TWA800 and PA103 are large. A bomb is pret
196 Jiml1126 : Red Panda: A new theory is that a meteor struck the plane. Many pilots flying Taiwan-Hong Kong claimed they oftern see meteors shooting around. And as
197 Bobcat : On a CI employee bulletin board, someone wrote: (originally in Chinese, but translated using http://world.altavista.com) "...this last 200 series 747
198 Hkgspotter1 : Is it correct parts of the plane have been found in Taiwan ?. If so would it be possible the plane started breaking apart before it broke into 4 parts
199 Post contains links Hkgspotter1 : http://www.asc.gov.tw/asc/_file/2006/upload/news/CI611-RADAR.pdf Radar info and speed, Heading etc
200 Ryanair!!! : Virgin Flyer - QANTAS and Thai no longer flies the classics, no? Anyway... I just posted another thread about the "shot-down" theory. The CAL 747-200
201 LZ-TLT : not 100%, Ryanair!!! You said "IF it was the center tank that was the root of this" and this way answered your own question. I posted a bit more on th
202 Post contains images Squigee : CTV News just reported "China Airlines has grounded thier entire fleet of 747-200s." Well...
203 Post contains images Red Panda : I had mentioned about the meteor theory in my previous post too. But I just used the word, asteroid. I think they are somehow the same, ain't they. Ta
204 Post contains links VirginFlyer : Ryanair!!! - Yes they do. Thai have two 747-300s, Qantas have 4 747-200s and 6 747-300s. I am not going to list other 747 classic stats here - there a
205 Hkgspotter1 : CI have 4 x 747-200F's that are now grounded. There was another one but that has been stored.
206 Post contains links and images Bobcat : View Large View MediumPhoto © Arthur Yu I just viewed the large version of this photo taken by Arthur Yu on Jan 09, 2002. What is that big white
207 Post contains links and images Airbus_A340 : Bobcat, it is still visible here, just a closer picture View Large View MediumPhoto © Andrew Hunt Regards Trevor
208 Bobcat : A somewhat unrelated question to the crash... I read that CI had sold the 747-200 to a Thai charter airline for only USD$1.45 million... isn't that ba
209 Na : From the Boeing Statement on China Airlines Accident: The airplane, a Boeing 747-200, line number 386, was delivered to China Airlines in July 1979. I
210 Airbus_A340 : China Airlines had a tailstrike today with a Boeing 737-800. Trevor
211 Hkgspotter1 : Are you serious, they just get better and better !!
212 Airbus_A340 : Yes, it was taking off heading to Taipei. TVB News reported this. Sad isn't it... Trevor
213 Ryanair!!! : Tian ah tian ah... wei she me! I am sure there would be a morale problem among its employees after this episode. There were always counselling session
214 AKelley728 : Bobcat: I'm sure that price was minus the engines.
215 CXCPA : Too many accident! The pilots of the flight from KHH to TPE should be fired! That pilots make 2 errors: 1. Tilt the plane too much. It will cause stal
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