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767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..  
User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3167 times:

Oh boy, according to Swedish media an 767 from Orlando that was heading to
Manchester had go back because the wing start to crack, a passenger saw a
hole in the wing and metal peaces flying from it.

27 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3131 times:

Link in Swedish http://www.expressen.se/article.asp?id=109897 the article
claim it was 318 onboard the plane.


User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3112 times:

Link in english http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_595256.html?menu=
it was a Air2000 plane.


User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3099 times:

What airline was it?

User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3095 times:

anyone have more details
??

It has landed safely right? Today is already a very sad day ... Sad


User currently offlineKarliboy From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3075 times:

i hope this isn't true as i'm due to fly on AMM 767 in 4 wks. Doesn't exactly instill peace of mind in me at all!

User currently offlineGmjh_air From Sweden, joined Aug 2000, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3008 times:

I posted this a bit earlier with the topic "hole in the wing?"

As the news coming out is not very high profile it was probably pieces falling off the wing that doesn't really qualify for a "rea emergency".

Things like that happens now and then I've been told........

Scary even so.


User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2980 times:

ooooo that's weird! When I saw the title I knew it would be AMM! Don't know why.......!

Does anyone know which of their 763s it was?


User currently offlineKarliboy From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2974 times:

was this a week or so ago when they substituted an Air Atlanta 747 on the SFB-BHX as the BHX bound 767 was given over to the MAN flight? (or something along those lines!)


yikes..i'm not the best of flyers since i had a chilling experience on a Spanair 767 over the atlantic, so i hope i keep calm!!!!

Karl


User currently offlineCaptain.md-11 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2962 times:

I had an experience on a Spanair 767 over the atlantic, it was not being able to move!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy (kinda cramped)


Twins,twins, everywhere.... but where are the three holers?
User currently offlineLanPeru From Peru, joined Jun 2001, 645 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2830 times:

Bet u won't hear AA pilots saying that. Ah well i am glad evryone was safe, any idea if this is a problem with all the 767s?

User currently offlineSxmarbury33 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2651 times:

"As the news coming out is not very high profile it was probably pieces falling off the wing that doesn't really qualify for a "rea emergency"."


I dont know what your talking about but in any circumstances peices should not be falling off an aircraft from any part. Also the attitude shouldnt be taken that this is not such a big deal because if manegment starts realizing no one really thinks its serious why should they care.


User currently offlineBA777 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2173 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2631 times:

Which AMM 763 was it?

BA777


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2609 times:

good call LanPeru,

Ground all 767s now! Big grin Same goes for the 747, since we dont now what caused todays crash.



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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2609 times:

Not to mention the 777. Just because a crash hasn't happened doesn't mean it won't.

User currently offlineCaptain.md-11 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2582 times:

777236ER don't you think that is tempting fate a little?


Twins,twins, everywhere.... but where are the three holers?
User currently offlinePW100 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2002, 2366 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2557 times:

I'll bet it was "just a wing panel coming loose". Although it should not happen, it's a long way off from a cracked wing! If a wing would crack to such an extent that the pax could see it, he [or she] would not live to tell.

If it's only ONE wing panel, its perfectely safe. Airliners are designed and proven safe to fly in this condition. But I admit, if I would witness such an event [having a degree in aeronautical engineering], I don't think I would be 100% comfortable...

PW100



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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2545 times:

Captain.md-11, note the irony. Of course the 777 shouldn't be grounded and of course the 767 shouldn't be grounded. Some people shouldn't be alarmist.

User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 18, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2530 times:

777236ER,

By these "some people" I suppose that you are reffering to the pilots of American airlines and... offcourse the A300 shouldn't be grounded.



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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2511 times:

The AA pilots and others who demand that an aircraft should be grounded after a crash. Of course the A300 shouldn't be grounded. It's perfectly safe and it's a pretty successful aircraft, even if it is getting old.


User currently offlineLanPeru From Peru, joined Jun 2001, 645 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2460 times:


Of course, one crash does not make a whole FAMILY unsafe, it's just ignorance that take you that far ( or politics hee hee). I am VERY happy that the 767 was ok, I love the 767 just like I love the A330. Fortunatley, nothing has happened to the newer place except for dumb errors.


User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 58
Reply 21, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2377 times:
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This is a post lifted from PPRuNE, which explains the incident, posted by SFly an engineer at Sanford.

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And now for what really happened . .

The aircraft took off from KSFB, and a portion of the tire came apart. It was believed to have gone through a slot in the flaps (as they were obviously still extended). It caused severe damage to the spoiler system on that wing. The passenger in question saw the tire bit come away and alerted the captain, who rightly returned to the airport. The passengers flew out the next day on a subchartered 747 from Air Atlanta and the aircraft was AOG at Orlando Sanford for a few days. The spoiler was damaged pretty badly and Boeing sent a new one from Seattle, which was installed and the aircraft left safely, returning to service with Air 2000.

The passengers were never in any real danger, they were just inconvenienced for a while.

You all know better than to listen to journalist rubbish now don't you?

SFly.

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User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2299 times:

Here are the links others provided that are now activated. No idea if the sites work or not.

http://www.expressen.se/article.asp?id=109897
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_595256.html?menu=



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User currently offlineNational_757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2263 times:

Wow Crosswind, thanks for the RIGHT information. You really shut these anti-Boeing bastards up with the real information. Thanks alot! (And before I get flamed by the Airbus crowed, I want to let you all know that I have respect for both companies and that competition is what makes both companies great!)

Take Care,
Richard


User currently offlineGmjh_air From Sweden, joined Aug 2000, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (12 years 2 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2087 times:

I've not said that pieces should come off an airplane.

What I was trying to suggest (and what turned out to be true if you are to believe the engineer quoted above) was that once again media is blowing something not very serious out of proportion.
When you read the newspaper report you can get the impression that the whole wing could have fallen off at any time.

Of course it's a big deal if things fall off, but in this case (as I suspected) it was a minor incident caused by a blown tire, which could probably not have been prevented by management.

And Yes, we should keep management alert to all safety and maintenance issues, but we do not do ourselves, the industry or the travelling public any favors by reporting incidents out of proportion and without the proper facts.





25 FDXmech : Bet u won't hear AA pilots saying that. Ah well i am glad evryone was safe, any idea if this is a problem with all the 767s? Bet u if Flt 587 was a 76
26 Rick767 : Thank you Crosswind for delivering the correct account of events. The nonsense "jounalistic" cr*p I have seen on this incident is laughable.
27 Captain.md-11 : I was refering to your comment about the 777 having a 100% safety record
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