Flying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4190 posts, RR: 34 Posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2927 times:
The Financial Times Deutschland reports that Preussag, the mother companyof TUI will enter into talks with Airbus and Boeing in about 9 months regarding an aquisition of 80 planes for delivery until 2010. A decision will be made mid-next year and will involve fleet requirements for Hapg-Lloyd, Britannia, NEOS, White Eagle Aviation and Corsair. Part of the order will be covered by leasing the planes.
Airsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 31
Reply 4, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2817 times:
I guess that would include replacements for HF´s 310s and SS´s 747s? Hmm, they operate already 767 (BY) and 330 (SS). It will be interesting to see the outcome. Don´t holiday airlines LOVE the 757/767 family for their economics? The cargo handicap isn´t that important for this type of airline.
PW100 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2002, 2967 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2691 times:
Who is SS?
I hope this isn't a german airline...don't think it will be very popular in "die Niederlande". Nothing personal, I did not experiance wwII [neither did my parents, but SS is still extremely sensitive in the Netherlands.
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Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2629 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2591 times:
While part of Preussag Hapag Lloyd were very reluctant to pursue a "single supplier" fleet strategy because it leaves the airline somewhat "captive" to one manufacturer in future fleet decisions. If you have a single supplier fleet it is a major upheaval to introduce a new type, plus you are unlikely to be able to negotiate the best deals for follow-on orders if you have a single supplier fleet.
It is unclear whether TUi takes the same view or not...
The TUi fleets are as follows
Britannia AB B737/B767
Hapag Lloyd B737/A310
White Eagle B737
I think there's a possibility of orders for the B737-900X and A330-200, and possibly the B777/A340 for Corsair to replace their ageing B747 fleet.
BWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2201 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2348 times:
The A330 is 10 years younger than the 767, the A320 20 years younger than the 737..
They will order 737NGS which are younger than the A320 and as the 767/ A330 true (nothing has really been done to the 767 200 and 300), but now there is the 400 and 777 200 so the age thing is not only rediculous but it has no foundation especially when one looks at the 737 600- 900 family which has successfully carry on the name of the 737 family.
Manni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2341 times:
Most European charter companies, aswell as Air Transat and Canada 3000 have chosen for the A330, the A330 clearly took the lead over the 767. I can imagine the range and extra seating being one of the reasons, aswell as the € to $ rate. Wich of both aircarft is the more expensive one when looking at the listed price?
Flying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4190 posts, RR: 34
Reply 16, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2313 times:
It will finally come down to the price, I could imagine a mix of further B737-800, coupled with A321-200s for higher-density routes with the B737-900X being possible, too. For long-haul requirements the A330-200/300 will make the race, the B767 is no longer the ideal fit as several charter carriers have shown in the past. The cargo capacity IS of importance on a number of flights, especially from Germany towards the Carribean and destinations in the Indian Ocean where they bring in many goods.
Rick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 50
Reply 19, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2245 times:
"If i take a Golf I, put a rear wing on it and label it as Golf NG, is it also newer than a 2002 BMW M3 ?"
I agree with Racko here, although the 737NG is apparently younger than the A320, a great deal of it's technology remains 1960s (in the same way that a great deal of the 747-400's technology is 1970s etc...).
Anyway here at Britannia we have simply been told the 767-400 and A330-200 are being considered for longhaul fleet expansion (with a view to ultimate replacement). The A330 is thought to be the favourite.
Whether the shorthaul fleet (757s) would then in future become A320/321 aircraft is anyone's guess.
From a totally selfish point of view, I hope we stick with the 757/767, but that is unlikely.
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Na From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 11381 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2007 times:
Corsair is flying some of the most densely seated 747s so A340s or 777s cannot fill their place. For me Corsair is a hot candidate to become a secondhand operator of 744s in a few years, taking some early SIA planes perhaps.
: Corsair belongs to Nouvelles Frontieres which is part of PREUSSAG.
: How long do you think it will be until the airlines are all renamed something like TUI International/TUI Airways/Air TUI etc?