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User currently offlineAircanada A320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (15 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 613 times:

Well, i just wanted to ask a couple questions.

#1 on planes with 2 or 1 aisle[ spelling?] I have noticed that on the window side there is never any more that 3 seats. what is the reason [s] for this? There is sometimes 4-5 seats in the middle.

#2 what US or canadian airline do you think has the best coach seats?

I think air canada because i was on a ac a319 from yul[montreal] to EWR[newark] and it was a 1hour 15 minutes flight and the seats were very comfortable..

Then i was on an america west 757 from ewr to phx and the seats were not good at all very bad.

#3 and also why do some 757's have a door in the middle of the coach cabin [ not the wing exit or the door after the first class cabin] then one in the back while others have just a door in the back.

#4 what is your fave plane and airline? Mine is the Aircanada A319 or the ac 767 or the aa 757

Well thanks.


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User currently offlineflyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (15 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 610 times:

The reason why there are not more than 3 seats on the side is so that the window passenger can (somwhat) easily get out. They have to cross 2 other people, but in the middle, with 5 seats across, the center passenger has to cross 2 people in each direction to get out.

My fav plane is the F-15, but for airlines, it is the MD-11. My favorite airline is either Delta or FedEx (note: large MD-11 operators).


User currently offlineFAUnited7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (15 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 609 times:

1.) I don't really understand the question. do you mean why on 2 isles do they only have 2-3 seats but in the middle have 4-5.
Well in a 1 aisle- they only have 2-3 also. No real reason I think. Maybe for comfort???

2.)I belive it would have to be USAirways Shuttle or Delta shuttle, they have all leather seats, and no first/busisness/first! They are all 727-200's.

3.)This is a main difference between a 757-200 and a 757-300 series.

4.)Mine is of course the UA777/DC-10/727
HOPED I HELPED


User currently offlineAvroRJ From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (15 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 609 times:

I feel the need to correct FAUnited7's post regarding #4--while this may indeed be a difference between the -200 and -300 series, I think he's asking why configuration can differ between different models of purely the -200 series.

I think it's just airline preference -- e.g. AA UA and DL 757-200s have three doors on each side of the aircraft and 4 wing exits whereas US and i think NW and HP 757-200s have 4 doors on each side and no window exits.

this phenomenon also exists with the 767-300 layouts. Most 767-300 operators chose two doors on each side of the aircraft, and 4 window exits. However BA 767-300s have four doors on each side of the aircraft.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29705 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (15 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 609 times:

There is a choice of doors available on the 757. I can't remember the exact pattern but one of them you have the four small overwing exits and on the other I belive they get rid of them and install two full sized doors. Airlines choice on who gets that door.

The best seats I can think of are on Lockheed Electra N1968R beloning to Reeve Aleutian Airways. I can't remember the row number but the ones across from the airstart are actually a pair of wider first class seats. this was done to imporve access to the door. The second to the last one in the airplane is good to. Nice thing about RAA they still keep 34 inches of pitch on their seats even on the jets.

Bet you can guess what my favorite type of airplane is to ride on. Second to last window seat on the Electra. On the sunny side all you have to do is put your head up agaist the window, fell the viberations comming off those four Allisons. Just makes you picture that plane is headed to some south sea paridise island rather then a snowy cold cannery town, where on the good days you almost can't make out the smell of rotting fish.



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User currently offlinecv990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (15 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 609 times:


The worst seats ever ever ever ever appeared in AA's MD-80s earlier in the 90s. They had the consistency of an ironing board with no contour whatsoever. I had to endure these between DFW and SJC all too often. Last time I looked, they had been replaced with ones that had more contour, but the exit rows -- prime because of legroom -- still had the old style seats.


User currently offlineUSAirways From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (15 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 609 times:

#1- Sorry, can't help you with that one.

#2- I like Continental's coach seats.

#3- I'm guessing if it is a longer 757 that they are required to have another emergency exit door.

#4- My favorite airline is definetely USAirways. My favorite plane has to be the USAirways 767-200 or the US Airways 737-300. I espicially like their first class arrangement on thier 767-200.


User currently offlineL1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1651 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (15 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 610 times:
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You are going to think I am a copycat, but I planned my post before I read L-188's, believe it or not. My favorite seats are also on Lockheed Electra N1968R. The cushion is longer than most, reaching the backs of my knees, making other airlines' cushions seem like half seats. These seem like original Electra seats, except the seat covers have been replaced. This aircraft also has the original Electra overhead racks, while N178RV appears to have had them ripped out and replaced with homemade ones. The seat pitch matches the window placement, which is rare these days.

Bob Bradley
Richmond, VA



Fly Eastern's Golden Falcon DC-7B
User currently offlineVirgin Atlantic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (15 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 609 times:

I think Virgin seats are comfortable and I like the N64 infront of you.
My fav plane is the 747 or 340 in Virgin Livery of course.
Iain
VP (Virgin Pride)


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29705 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (15 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 610 times:

The racks in 178 are not the originals. Reeve got that aircraft from a contractor who built it out of a passenger Electra that got it's nose demolised and a freighter that had the same thing happen to it's tail section. At about a third of the way down the side of that aircraft you can see the doubler where the two sections are joined.

78R was the rattiest aircraft in the Reeve fleet in my opinion. It was the one that I recall having the most inflight mechanical problems and the cargo pits-What a nightmare. Because it had a passenger floor, it had to be reinforced by running a series of 2 by 1 inch square aluminium tube pillars right down the middle of both cargo bays. What a nightmare to load. 68R incidently had a pair installed in the front belly when I first worked there to reinforce where the prop stike occured in 1983. The where removed during an overhaul about 1996. Made loading the front of that airplane a lot easier.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29705 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (15 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 610 times:

Oh. by they way they are the original seats and frames. They just have been rebuilt when needs


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User currently offlineL1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1651 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (15 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 611 times:
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Thanks for the information, L-188. It's nice to know I'm not the only Electra fan on the forum. By the way, why doesn't Reeve use jetways with their Electras in Anchorage? Eastern used them in Boston on theirs. They hooked them up to the rear door which went through the galley. They didn't use them with the forward door due to the built-in stairs. Why doesn't Reeve do this?

Bob Bradley
Richmond, VA



Fly Eastern's Golden Falcon DC-7B
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29705 posts, RR: 59
Reply 12, posted (15 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 610 times:

Negative. Both 78R and 44C are combis so they have the big cargo door in front. In fact If you go on my site I belive I have a picture of 44C with its door open and sitting on it's tail at Shemya Alaska. 68R has the standard passenger door in the front and if it is set up in the 84 seat configuration rather then the normal sixty there is no reason why you couldn't. That said Reeve does not own any jetway equipt gates at Anchorage. Even on the 727's you have to board via the rear airstairs.

One other note. When I first rode on Reeve's Electras way back in 79 they had airstairs installed on the rear door. They have since been removed. My old lead George told me that it was because the military demanded it on their contract flights.

My site is at www.aero.und.edu/~shmiller. I belive that photo is on the About me picture. I got permission to used from somebody that was based out at Shemya. Unfortunatly the schools E@mail account crashed so I lost the record of who it was.



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User currently offlinecv990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (15 years 3 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 610 times:


At DCA (Washington National), EA used jetways on the forward doors and lowered the airstairs so that they extended out into the jetway, and they covered them with metal plates. You walk across them clop clop clop but hey, it was
an Electra.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29705 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (15 years 3 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 609 times:

Interesting. On 68R they removed the airstair so that wasn't a problem.

I was flying on Horizon one time and saw them board people on their Fokkers. On the F-28 the front door tips down and forms an airstair. The rails had to be raised into place by hand. When they used a jetway, they just leave the rails down.



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User currently offlineAF777 From Canada, joined Jun 1999, 223 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (15 years 3 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 609 times:

For the answer to the first question see fly515.

2)The seats on United's 777's, and A320-and 319's are very comfortable and have have adjustable headrests. The 320-319's have footrests. Also Air France has very comfortable seats too.

3)There is a large distance between the middle and rear doors, thus another is needed.

4)Favorite plane in the 777 in Economy or Business, and the 747-400 in First
Favorite Airlines are United, Air France, and Air Canada


User currently offlineb777-300 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (15 years 3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 609 times:

I think that the austrain operator Lauda air has the best seats with every one withs its one telephone and tv!
The food is the greatest to
Have no other people out there flying with Lauda?

/Jonas


User currently offlineDavid From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (15 years 3 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 609 times:

i think the best seats are on SAS's new 737-600's. I've seen them in Airways magazine and they are very nice and have lots of stuff to play with

User currently offlineAF&&&am From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (15 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 609 times:

All Airlines 777's have video monitors at every seat just like Lauda. I have never flown Lauda. They don't fly to the states right?

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