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Which Airlines Will Survive?  
User currently offlineGr8SlvrFlt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1598 posts, RR: 10
Posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1539 times:

Here are my thoughts:

American - yes
United - yes, but struggling
Delta - yes
Northwest - yes
Continental - taken over (Delta?)
US Airways - no
America West - no
Southwest - yes
Alaska - taken over (Northwest?)
ATA - yes
AirTran - taken over (ATA?)
Midwest Express - maybe
Aloha - no
Hawaiian - taken over (American?)
Vanguard - no
Spirit - maybe
National - no

What do you think?






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User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1495 times:

Continental will not be taken over by Delta or anyone else for that matter.

Jeremy


User currently offlineNational_757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1477 times:

I agree with Artsyman, Continental has new planes, and with my experiences with them, every crew member had a great attitude. I will definitely by flying with them more often.

I do not believe that AirTran will be taken over, especially not by ATA. ATA is a completely different airline than Airtran. I hope you are wrong about National, but you never know with them. I hope they survive but things aren't looking too good for them.

Great thread by the way........

Take Care,
Richard


User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1457 times:

Gordon has repeatedly said that Continental are not open to being taken over by anyone, and in most cases are in a better position that the people being talked about to take them over. He specifically talked about the rumours that Delta are going to take them over and just laughed. Saying that Delta should spend their time trying to fill their own planes rather than talking about Continentals.

As it stands, Continental is leading all the majors in operational performance, rasms, casms, and any other sort of 'asms' that you wish to bring into this.

He did joke the other day that the airlines are currently being judged on who is losing the least as opposed to making the most...

Jeremy


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1443 times:

KLM ; another 83 yrs ?

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User currently offlineIbizajet A330 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1440 times:

CO will live on for generations to come.

User currently offlineGD727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 925 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1413 times:


Here is my opinion:

American - Yes
United - Yes
Delta - Yes
Northwest - Yes
Continental - Yes
US Airways - No
America West - Maybe
Southwest - Yes
Alaska - Maybe
ATA - Yes
AirTran - Yes
Midwest Express -Maybe
Aloha - No
Hawaiian -Maybe
Vanguard -No
Spirit -No
National -Maybe

-GD727



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User currently offlineTC-MNC From Germany, joined Jan 2002, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1386 times:

Hi,

in my opinion all major flagcarriers in Europe and Asia will survive.
From the lowcost carriers in Europe, I think only one will survive. Maybe two.
But the problem I see, is that the three leaders come from the British Isles. FR, U2 & UK.
But it is very hard to say, if the Russian, African and Southamerican Airlines will survive.

Regards
Dennis


User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1386 times:

american is doing just as bad as UNITED,they are both considering wage concessions.what are your thoughts based on?
just how you feel about these airlines?

UNITED-YES
american-YES
delta-YES
usairways-NO
northwest-YES
continental-YES and wont be taken over by anybody,anytime soon.

those are the more important ones in my opinion.




ual 777 contrail


User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3735 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1351 times:
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In the United States,
I also think that US Airways is the next major US carrier to dissapear, they don't seem to expand in adding new routes (they dropped Brussels). Everybody seems to think US Airways will go, and I'm convinced it will be gone before the end of the decade.
The five major carriers that are likely to stay are American, Delta, Continental, Southwest, and Northwest. United has lost a lot of money last year and was said to perish sometimes this year, but they seem to recover a little bit. I'm not sure about America West, they've been struggling a lot to survive in the nearly 20 years they have existed. Alaska could be taken over by American, Delta or Continental. Aloha and Hawaaian will merge, if they have not merged already.

In Europe, the four largest carriers that are likely to stay are KLM, Air France, British Airways and Lufthansa. I'm not too sure about the others.

In Africa, definitely South African Airways will stay.

In South America, Varig and Lan Chile have a good chance to stay.

In Asia and Australia, it looks like China Airlines (CI) will dissapear. Singapore, JAL and Qantas are likely to live long. Sure there are many other major airlines in that part of the world, but I mention the ones that have many chances to stay for a long time. I didn't say that all others would dissapear right away, Cathay, ANA and Thai do have chances to stay alive.

Ben Soriano
Brussels Belgium



Ben Soriano
User currently offlinePH-BFA From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 562 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1334 times:

'in my opinion all major flagcarriers in Europe and Asia will survive.'

I am not to sure about that. Just have a look at Swissair, Sabena.

PH-BFA


User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5480 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1316 times:

Wasn't Aer Lingus in financial trouble a few months ago? Does anyone know how they are doing now and if they will make it through?

blink



Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently offlineSpinkid From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1094 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1300 times:

you left jetBlue off your list. I'm saying yes. to them. Also forgot Frontier, I give them a maybe. I think USairways will fold. I don't think ATA and Air Tran will merge. They are too different from one another. Generally I think Frontier, Spirit, jetBlue and ATA, AirTran will survive by staying under the radar of the majors and focusing on their respective niches.

User currently offlineGr8SlvrFlt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1598 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1291 times:

Great responses! Thanks especially for all the European, Asian and African perspectives.

Sorry I forgot Frontier and JetBlue. Also Midway (no way!). My opinions are based on fiscal health and not personal preferences. Being taken over by another carrier is not necessarily a bad thing....I sure wish Eastern had been.

I have heard ATA and AirTran merger rumours for quite some time. The two carriers are actually quite similar. ATA is quickly transitioning from all leisure to mixed leisure and business markets and adopting a more sober, professional image; just as ValuJet did when it became AirTran and added business class seating. I think AirTran and ATA would fit together nicely with a modern fleet of 717s, 737s and 757s and hubs in Atlanta, Baltimore and Chicago-Midway. The two also have similar strategies of offering frequent, low-cost service between both major and mid-size markets.


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