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Which Should I Take In First Class To Hawaii?  
User currently offlineTranStar From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 530 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6128 times:
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I'm going to Hawaii via at least two, perhaps three carriers. Which is the better option if I am flying first class? This is for my return trip.

1. American Airlines from Honolulu to Chicago to Washington National.
2. United Airlines from Honolulu to Chicago to Washington Dulles.
3. Continental Airlines from Honolulu to Houston or Newark to Washington National.
4. Northwest Airlines from Honlulu through Minnneapolis to Washington National.

From what I understand, American and United's first class services to Hawaii are equal only to their normal domestic flights (e.g., no footrest, full reclining seat and limited video options). Aircraft I would fly on would be 767-300 on leg to Chicago. United would also likely be 767-300.

Continental, I understand or I believe, operates their BusinessFirst service as if the flights to Hawaii were international and offer full recline and personal video, good food etc. etc. Aircraft would definitely be 767-400

Northwest, I assume their Business World is offered on flights to Hawaii but I really don't know. I have no idea what aircraft they fly to HNL, but assume either DC-10-30/-40 or 747-200/-400. I know their BUsiness World is similar but not as good as Continental's BusinessFirst.

Seems to me that Continental is the best option in terms of comfort, luxery, and amenities. Is that correct? Does anyone know?

Thanks!
TranStar


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User currently offlineTekelbery From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6106 times:

Either CO or NW. NW flys the DC-10-30 HNL-MSP. NW's first/business class is great on international aircraft. CO is also. Why are you wasting your money on first class? Just take CO in economy and you'll be fine. They have good food and they have PTV's in all their seats. You'll be fine whatever you take..

User currently offlineTranStar From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 530 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6105 times:
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Tekelbery.

My business is paying for the flight in first class. Never gotten paid to go that way before.

CO is very good coach, I believe they have the best domestic/international service for a US carrier.

TranStar


User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6094 times:

they have 777's on the HNL-SFO-IAD

united is also very good service and i would rather fly on the 777 if you can.it beats the DC-10 anyday and the 767-300's

but it sounds as if you already made up your mind,CO is a good airline,and service is right on as well.hope your trip is awesome regardless of who you choose.




ual 777 contrail


User currently offline762er From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 542 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6088 times:

Definitely go with Continental. EWR-HNL will give you more time to enjoy the first class service than IAH-HNL, although IAH-HNL will probably get you there and home faster. By the way, United doesn't offer nonstop service to ORD from HNL. You'd have to make a stop in either LAX or SFO or possibly DEN if you went on the day that flight operates. No other airline compares to Continental's first class on Hawaii routes except for maybe the old TWA 763's that operate the STL-HNL/OGG nonstops. Or has AA already changed those 763's to have the domestic first seats too? CO all the way!

User currently offline762er From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 542 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6080 times:

Although, I have to warn you, every once in a while on the EWR-HNL flight, when the head winds are strong and the loads are high, they make a tech stop in LAX or SFO for extra fuel before they continue over the pacific. This happened probably 1 out of 10 or more days during the winter. You probably won't have to worry about since winds are beginning to die down with the arrival of summer. Something to think about though.

User currently offlineBobcat From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6070 times:

If my company is paying first class fare for me to fly from IAD to HNL, I'd take the following flights...




Outbound:

UA#947 IAD-LAX 545pm-815pm - sleeper first class on 3-class 777. I once upgraded to first on this flight and the service is equal to UA's int'l first class.

Spend a night in LA. Have a good breakfast and then,

UA#55 LAX-HNL 1125am-150pm - regular first class on 2-class 777, still excellent service, but less legroom




On the return portion:

UA#56 HNL-LAX 1030pm-649am regular first class on a 767-300. First class is served a light snack and enjoy some sleep.

UA#946 LAX-IAD 800am-346pm sleeper first class on 3-class 777, you'll be served a delicious and hearty breakfast.


I really love the first class sleeper on UA's 3-class 777 for IAD-LAX. Too bad I've only done it twice...


User currently offlineI LOVE EWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 852 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6056 times:

I would defiently go with CO. All the other airlines would be fine to Hawaii but CO BizFirst is a great service to HNL. Check Flyertalk.com for some trip reports on the flight from EWR and IAH to Hawaii.

User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6051 times:

But CO has limited services to Hawaii, so if something goes wrong, you are in trouble... UA tends to own all of Hawaii with the most widebodies and flights, but I'd honestly be partial to UA's 757s into HNL :P Much larger F seats than on the 763s....

Bad part of UA F is if you aren't a Premier or higher, you may not get your meal choice as it's done by status (Million Milers, then 1Ks, 1Ps, then 2Ps).

be sure to let us know how the flight was!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

-n


User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6015 times:

bobcat,
those sleeper seats are wonderful.i flew ORD-PEK in a sleeper and i didnt want to get off the plane.it's good to hear from other people how they feel on those awesome seats.

segmentking,
i have flown first on united long hauls and have always had my choice of meals.this may have happened to you before but i have never heard of this from anyone else.they always have plenty of first meals.






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User currently offlineTriley1057 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 1999, 462 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6008 times:

I do believe CO is going to replace one of the 764 flights from IAH to HNL with a 777. I don't exactly know when. So from HNL to IAH you can either be on a 777 or 764 depending on the time of day.

User currently offlineILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5991 times:

United by far offers the most connecting options. If DC is your final destination, then defiantly take United. United will allow for more connections as you will be passing through a hub to get to a hub.

The service on the 3 class 777s going to Dulles from the west coast will offer an appetiser, salad, 3 meal choices, ice cream sundaes, and a light snack prior to landing. I believe that it is the same service the other way as well.

In First class on the Hawaii bound flight, I believe that it is a single trayed meal service. There will be a side salad, your choice of 2 or 3 entrees, dinner rolls and of course Chicago's finest Eli's Cheesecake.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

United also flies 777s to Hawaii. These 777s are in a two class configuration with the domestic F class seats. The seats however are much wider. The first class seats on the 767-300 to Hawaii are much narrower...but are as wide as AAs and DLs seats in first.

This should be the easiest decision to make in your life...take United.
United will offer you a safe, comfortable and a wonderfull trip on board brand new 777 or 767 jetliners. If you can ride on the 777 3 Class for your DC flights, you will enjoy United's premium product...the First Suite. So...how can you not take United?

I L U V 7 6 7


User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5979 times:

Contrails,

I'm a Premier Exec and I normally get my choice, it's the people BELOW me that normally don't get it. As you know, Revenue FIRST CLASS passengers aren't notated as a special passenger on the manifest, just as *Mileage Plus* or nothing, if they aren't a member. So most of the time, non Premier FULL FARE REVENUE First Class passengers are asked their preference last...

-n


User currently offlineFTraveler From United States of America, joined May 2001, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5960 times:

Take CO's BF. The seating configuration is 2-1-2 on the 764, recline is nowhere near flat but excellent nevertheless, great food, amenity kit, leg and footrests, plus you'll have a PTV to help occupy your time.

UA's F sleeper seats are heavenly, but you'll only get them along with a PTV on the transcon, and then from DEN, SFO or LAX to HNL you'll get a typical domestic F with minimum recline, no footrests, no PTVs and a decent chance that you won't get your meal choice.


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