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DC10 With 118,000 Hours!  
User currently offlineOO-AOG From Switzerland, joined Dec 2000, 1426 posts, RR: 4
Posted (12 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 2520 times:

According to Flight International (14may02), a DC10-30 has accumulated almost 118.000 hours in the log book, followed closely by a 747-200F with 115.600 hours flown....and a DC-9-10 has logged over 101.000 cycles!
This is really impressive....
Does somebody here has an idea of the registrations/operators of these veterans?


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User currently offlineDcy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 5 hours ago) and read 2478 times:

101000 cycles is impossible.

Let's say it's 25 years old ... 25*365=9125. So that means it would have completed 11 cycles each and every day. Heard to believe  Smile What do you think?

dcy.


User currently offlineGr8SlvrFlt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1598 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 5 hours ago) and read 2467 times:

DC-9-10s are more likely to be at least 35 years old. They were designed for short, frequent flights.

User currently offlineAsgeirs From Iceland, joined May 2001, 516 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 5 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

Hi OO-AOG!

Were the registration numbers of the aircrafts by any change mentioned in the article?

118.000 hours - that's 13.5 years in the air !!!



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User currently offlineRogueTrader From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 2400 times:

Not only is 118000 hous 13.5 years in the air, its more time than most of us will spend at work. If most of us work 2000 hours a year, then this DC-10 has put in about 59 years worth of work. Does NW still fly DC-9-10s? What about Aeromexico or Aerocalifornia? Who else could it be?

kind regards,

RogueTrader


User currently offlineN102DA From United States of America, joined May 2002, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 2363 times:

I thought I read somewhere that Midwest Express operates the high time DC-9, a -14 model manufactured in 1966. Not sure of the registration (perhaps N700ME?). Can anybody confirm this?

Regards,

N102DA


User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6278 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 2348 times:

N3310L had 100,596 cycles by December 1995, N93S had 101,383 cycles when sold to Sandia labs in 1998. N92S had 101,884, N94S had 101,060, N91S had 103,135 before they were retired in December 1998. Since NW still has DC-9-10s in service, I imagine these numbers have been surpassed.


Quit calling an airport ramp "Tarmac" and a taxiway "runway".
User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3149 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2202 times:
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Some of the retired LH 742s had more than 100,000 hours, I think D-ABYQ (now scrapped in HHN) was the highest.

Konstantin



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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4302 posts, RR: 36
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2164 times:

I think the high time DC-10 is N220NW, which had long carriers at Swissair (ex HB-IHC) and Northwest. It had already 109.000 hours in 1999 (high time DC-10 at the time) and it continued in daily transatlantic service since. I flew with it last summer from Miami to Amsterdam and it looked great. But a few months ago it has been withdrawn.
Source: www.airlinerlist.com



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User currently offlineFDXmech From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2042 times:

I remember when the Aloha 737 lost its roof back in the late '80s and was reported to have accumulated over 90,000 cycles.
It's the cycles which cause the most wear and tear whereas the high hours (combined with low cycles) are much easier to bear...so to speak.



You're only as good as your last departure.
User currently offlineExnonrev From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 621 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1965 times:

Most of TWA's 747s had reached the 100K mark by the time they were retired. N93109 was the first to do it. The only one I can think of that didn't hit 100K was N93119, which had over 93,000 hrs when she was lost in 1996.

In addition to the ex-NW DC-9-10, the aging aircraft research program at Sandia has an ex-BA 747-136 with over 100,000 hours.



User currently offlineSAS23 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1930 times:

You'd expect to see high hours on long haul aircraft - and high cycles on short haul ones. It's the cycles, not the time, that's the determining factor - if you are doing avarega sectors of 6 hours you could have 120,000 hours but only 20,000 cycles - and if your average sector is 30 minutes you could have 50,000 hours but 100,000 cycles.

Of course, at the end of the day, it comes down to a combination of how well the aircraft are designed and built (Lockheed and Douglas are tops here) and of course how well they are maintained.


User currently offlineRw774477 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1069 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1859 times:

exnonrev ,

Are you sure N93109 was the first to log 100,000 hrs ? I thought it was a Korean 747. Where did you get the info ?

rw774477


User currently offlineHA2vegas From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1755 times:

I think the Hawaiian DC9s could have done that many cycles, given the short duration of an inter-island flight.

User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 14, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1739 times:

N3310L, N91S, N92S, and N94S were all operated by Southern Airways in the early stages of their lives :

N3310L from 8/73 to 7/79
N91S from 5/67 to 7/79 (was leased outside for one year during that time)
N92S from 6/67 to 7/79
N94S from 2/68 to 7/79

As we all know, Southern Airways operated very short flights with quick turnarounds in the southeast US before they merged with North Central in 1979 to form Republic, which later was merged into Northwest: so the lineage was definitely there.

Tom in NO (at MSY)

PS: I've got a picture of N3310L I took at ORD in '79 (Southern colors) on my office wall, I'd be interested to know how many hours and cycles it ended up with before it was retired.



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User currently offlineExnonrev From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 621 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1724 times:

N93109 was the first of the -131s to hit 100K. Sorry for any confusion.

User currently offlineJettblasterp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 203 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1694 times:

Midwest Express' N700ME is the oldest DC9 with almost 100,000 hours and cycles. It may be their oldest, but it is not their highest time/cycles plane. I think N80ME has that honor.

User currently offlineRw774477 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1069 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1672 times:

so which a/c hit 100k first and on what date ?

rw774477


User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6278 posts, RR: 34
Reply 18, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1603 times:

N93109 was the first aircraft in history to pass 100,000 hours. It occurred on May 1, 1996.


Quit calling an airport ramp "Tarmac" and a taxiway "runway".
User currently offlineExnonrev From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 621 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1559 times:

After spending a couple of hours searching FAA Service Difficulty Reports (which have required hours and cycles to be reported since late 2000), I've come across a few more of Northwest's "Centurion" DC-10s:

N211NW - 113005 hr/21289 cy as of 24 Feb 02
N223NW - 109502/25925 9 Jan 01
N225NW - 110363/25468 28 Nov 01
N227NW - 100451/22937 21 Nov 01
N230NW - 109111/26482 16 Jul 01

N220NW, mentioned in an earlier post, had 115363 hr/27071 cy as of her last SDR filed 3 May 01.

At the time Continental's DC-10s were retired shortly after 9/11, several 100K DC-10s were on the property:

N14062 - 105732/21242 22 Mar 01
N14063 - 101317/21869 24 Feb 01
N12064 - 105379/22340 29 Sep 01
N14079 - 97096/21484 3 Nov 00
N59083 - 105146/21500 15 Aug 01
N17085 - 101050/18899 28 Aug 01

MidEx's Baby Nines haven't quite hit the 100K cycle mark:
N300ME - 72614/60434 4 Dec 01
N500ME - 75696/82558 5 May 02
N700ME - 82722/76367 25 Apr 02
N800ME - 89903/91496 22 Dec 01
N900ME - 75914/90188 15 Feb 02


User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2443 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (12 years 1 month 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1481 times:

AeroCalifornia has the DC9 with more cycles in the world:

DC9-15 XA-RKT (Del Date: 12/67)
DC9-15 XA-RNQ (Del Date: 05/67)

Both have more than 94,000 cycles...

Rojo


User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24813 posts, RR: 46
Reply 21, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1376 times:

According to Boeing data as of 3/31/02 here are some of the still in operation fleet leaders in hours and cycles.

B737
Hours - Lan Chile CC-CSI - 92398 hrs
Cycles - Aero Continente OB-1748 - 93111 cyc

B747
Hours - KLM PH-BUI - 112121 hrs
Cycles - ANA JA8146 - 36997 cyc

B757
Hours - Monarch G-MONB - 66802 hrs
Cycles - DHL G-BIKC - 33488 cyc

B767
Hours - Airborne N702AX - 74349 hrs
Cycles - ANA JA8240 - 36225 cyc

B777
Hours - United - N768UA - 28889 hrs
Cycles - JAL - JA8982 - 12081 cyc





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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1325 times:

PH-BUI - 112121 hrs ?!


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Wow, Taking Things Further indeed ...

KLM does heavy maintenance on 747 themselves,
aircraft look like new coming out of there ..


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